 | Posted by: | Terrie, tmcsorley@ufpi.com | | Subject: | baby killed by parents? | | When: | 1:05 PM, 27 Sep 2000 | | IP: | 204.62.141.189 |
Out baby sugar glider was killed by one of the parents and eaten last night. Has anyone else experienced this? The baby was doing fine and was about 2 weeks old. Did not have it's eyes open yet. It was drinking from the mother so it was not undernourished or sick.. This is my daughter-in-laws and she is devastated.
Can anyone give us a clue on what happened.
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| Posted by: | Eric Coleman, possum007@hotmail.com | | Subject: | possibilities | | When: | 2:11 PM, 27 Sep 2000 | | IP: | 166.62.216.154 |
How big is your cage? Sometimes if the cage is too small then sugar gliders will kill if over crowded. They will also kill if food and water resources aren't enough to sustain the memebers of that particular group. These reasons are instinctual, there are other possibilities dependent on their environment.
| Posted by: | Bourbon | | Subject: | none | | When: | 2:37 PM, 27 Sep 2000 | | IP: | 24.48.198.124 |
Terri, I know this is a devasting thing.. Kim has a wonderful page she did on joeys she also covers cannibleism in it.
<a href=http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/glidingpossums/joeygrowth.html>http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/glidingpossums/joeygrowth.html</a>
1.are these the first litter?
2.what diet were they on? did they have ample enough protein and calcium?
3.was the father in the cage with her?
4.could there be a possibility the father with the mother isn't the father of the joey?
5. stress factors? animals strangers, moves etc??
there is a paper out that was published many years ago on a koala, (i know they are different) but they are still marsupials. and they found it is very common that first litters don't survive but no problems with any litters following. I used to be they were not making it out of the pouch, but more and more are making it further along. This is NOT always the case with all first litters. many times it is very early in the preganacy, it is ususally i see bumps now i don't thing... as said in an earlier thread there isn't a whole lot known about gliders, and sometimes we have to go by what we find on other animals as to what to watch for with the gliders. Kims joeys page has got to be by far the most comprehensive, jane also has one.
| Posted by: | Terrie, tmcsorley@ufpi.com | | Subject: | thank you | | When: | 3:02 PM, 28 Sep 2000 | | IP: | 204.62.141.201 |
I showed the web site to my daughter-in-law last night. It helped. As for your questions:
1. yes
2. Fruits, nuts, cucumber, etc
4. yes
5. No moves recent. Cage is very large.
There is just the two of them,so it was not overcrowded.
The paper link is very interesting. We would like to thank you for posting it for us.
| Posted by: | Bourbon | | Subject: | diet | | When: | 3:43 PM, 28 Sep 2000 | | IP: | 24.48.198.157 |
Terri, leets go into your dit.. was that all you were feeding them? if so there is a huge problem right there. I am sure you had the etc... on there so there has to be more, so can I ask you to be really specific, not necessarily the amounts but aproximations of how often fruits veggies and nuts is not a diet that they will survive on for a long term, there is definite lack of calcium, and proteins there.
| Posted by: | Terrie, tmcsorley@ufpi.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 9:36 AM, 29 Sep 2000 | | IP: | 204.62.141.201 |
I am not sure of everything that she feeds them. Can you give me a balanced diet and I will go over it with her to make sure she is feeding them properly. And, also how ofen.
I would appreciate it.
| Posted by: | Terrie, tmcsorley@ufpi.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 9:49 AM, 29 Sep 2000 | | IP: | 204.62.141.201 |
I checked this site under food. She seems to feed them a lot of what is listed. I haven't seen her feed them cat food, dry bread or any type of meat? She does give them a little whip cream once in a while, they seem to love that. Is that good for them? Other than that, the nuts,veggies, celery, cucumber, fruit, sunflower seeds.
Shouldn't they get enough protien from the nuts? What is a good calcium source for them, I don't think they like milk. She feeds them when they get up in the evening, gives them nuts at different various times.
What kind of baby food?
| Posted by: | Mary, intr01dc@frank.mtsu.edu | | Subject: | Diet | | When: | 3:38 PM, 29 Sep 2000 | | IP: | 12.77.121.37 |
Ok nuts are very high in fat and should only be eed as a trat maybe once or twice a week. They do not contan enough protien for ahealthy glider. A glider needs 33% protien in their diet...and Isee very littlein yours. Gliders need alot of insects in their diet. They get protien nd calcium from te insects. You should be feedin several crickets or melworms a day per glider.
Here is a diet page whch lists several glidr diets:
<a href=http://www.angelfire.com/nb/sugarglider/diet/index.html>http://www.angelfire.com/nb/sugarglider/diet/index.html</a>
I personally use this diet:
<a href=http://www.angelfire.com/nb/sugarglider/leadbeat.html>http://www.angelfire.com/nb/sugarglider/leadbeat.html</a>
ope that helps you sme. Please reaize that gliders do ot just eat fruit and veggies. In the wild they eat a lot of bugs, mice, and small birds.
| Posted by: | Bourbon | | Subject: | diet options | | When: | 3:40 PM, 29 Sep 2000 | | IP: | 24.48.198.169 |
here you can start here
<a href=http://www.angelfire.com/nb/sugarglider/dietc.html>http://www.angelfire.com/nb/sugarglider/dietc.html</a>
and elwin has a good page set up for free feeding at
<a href=http://www2.atlantis-intl.com/glideradoptionsandrescue/interst.htm>http://www2.atlantis-intl.com/glideradoptionsandrescue/interst.htm</a>
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