 | Posted by: | Kris the newbie, kcurylo@visteon.com | | Subject: | Time with a new glider | | When: | 9:21 AM, 25 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 136.1.1.33 |
I just brought home my first Glider and he's warming up to me really fast. After only 3 days, he is climbing on to my hand and stopped crabbing when I open his cage. After I handle him for a couple hours, he seems to get a little cranky. How long should I work with him at one time before I let him be by himself in his cage?
Another quick question... last couple of nights when spending time with him, he just wants to sleep. He has a sock that we just LOVES. So I petted him while he stayed in the sock. Does this still count as spending time with him? Even though he isn't active and exploring? I just don't want to deprive the little guy by thinking that this counts as "time well spent" when it really isn't.
Thanks in advance
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| Posted by: | Rocki'sMom, babygirl@ccp.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 9:57 AM, 25 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 216.60.86.111 |
Kris, time in a pouch is time well spent, but please get him away from that sock. Socks are very dangerous to gliders. They can get their nails hung up and injure themselves badly. Having him with you in a pouch is great though. You need to have some trust built with the glider before you let him out to explore. You might want to take him into a small room, such as the bathroom and let him come and go from you as he pleases, that will show him that he can trust you to no make him stay with you if he wants to explore.
| Posted by: | Robin, 4dbirdie@bellsouth.net | | Subject: | none | | When: | 9:58 AM, 25 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 208.61.133.24 |
Even carrying the baby around in his pouch is considered bonding time because he is becoming accustomed to your movements, voice, and scent. Have you read about the dangers of using a sock? I'm definitely no expert, but it is not uncommon for them to get their tiny little nails stuck in a loose thread. I have even heard stories of them getting thread stuck around their necks, etc.
Please consider buying a pouch for his cage that has no loose threads. You will definitely have no regrets this way.
Good luck with your baby! 
| Posted by: | Rocki'sMom, babygirl@ccp.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 10:00 AM, 25 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 216.60.86.111 |
Oops, sorry, misread your post....I would play with him until he lets you know that he wants to be alone now. He will tell you by crabbing or getting cranky like you said, then just let him play by himself. ;)
| Posted by: | Kris the newbie, kcurylo@visteon.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 10:20 AM, 25 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 136.1.1.33 |
Thanks for the info. I saw somewhere (I think an outdated book the pet store had sold me) that is said they like socks and it didn't mention the hazards of a sock. I would hate to see anything happen because of that sock.
I always bring him into the bathroom to spend time with him. It's the only room small enough that I KNOW it's glider proofed. I cover the toilet and stop all the drains and he seems pretty cool with just hanging around his cage. He seems to like to play the game "hold me in your hand so I can jump back to my cage". He'll do it numerous times in a row. What other toys should I invest in so he can play at night? I heard bird toys a good. Is this true? What should I be sure to stay away from? (I know about wire wheels)
Thanks again
| Posted by: | Rocki'sMom, babygirl@ccp.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 1:16 PM, 25 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 216.60.86.105 |
Definetly should get a wodent wheel, they love them. you can order one at www.transoniq.com Also, cotton rope hanging from the top of the cage and any feathers you can find...tehy love them too.
| Posted by: | Mary/Beck, intr01dc@frank.mtsu.edu | | Subject: | Playing | | When: | 4:07 PM, 25 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 12.77.81.80 |
If he is not very active then it could be due to his age, the time you play, how dark the room is, and his diet.
Bonding time is great so it is good to pet him in a pouch (deffijnitly not a sock but thats been covered). Gliders do need 2 hrs of playtime each night...durring this time they will bond with you even more.
Could you please answer a few questions that might determine why he would rather sleep than play.
1. What time is it when you wake him up for playtime?
2. How dark is the room you are playing in?
3. How old is he?
4. What diet is he on?
Do you hear him playing in the cage late at night after you have gone to bed?
| Posted by: | Kris the newbie, kcurylo@hotmail.com | | Subject: | reply to playing | | When: | 4:20 PM, 25 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 206.141.193.249 |
As for your questions...
1. usually around 9:00
2. it was the bathroom... so kinda bright
3. 3 months old (from what the pet store told me... he's still pretty small.)
4. I'm just starting him on a regular diet that I have seen here that seems to be the favorite. I have been feeding him diced apple, oranges, grapes and a little glider aid every other night. I have only had him less than a week so the crap that lousy pet store was feeding him (glider aid and dried fruit mix) probably isn't helping either.
I just got a new little pouch based on the best I could figure from other people's postings. I'm still not sure what material the pouch should be made of? What is safe and comfortable for him?
Thanks, Kris
| Posted by: | dagny | | Subject: | leadbeaters | | When: | 7:01 PM, 25 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 24.18.196.238 |
have you heard about leadbeaters mix? if you go online you will preobably find about a million different recapies..I ended up making one out of a combination of what I saw as ingredients...it is an important part of his diet so check it out!
my recapie is as follows:
1/2 cup apple juice
1/2 cup honey
1 hardboiled egg
1/4 tsp bee pollen
1/4 cup wheat germ
1 jar chicken baby food
500 mg omega fish oil
1/4 tsp calcium& D3 suppliment
1/2 cup gerber baby cereal
you put this all in the blender and then freeze it.
(if anyone sees a problem with this recapie let me know..I am alway up for more info) 
| Posted by: | dagny | | Subject: | vegtables | | When: | 7:03 PM, 25 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 24.18.196.238 |
vegtables are important too
| Posted by: | Mary/Beck, intr01dc@frank.mtsu.edu | | Subject: | Kris | | When: | 9:37 PM, 25 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 12.77.81.184 |
Kris gliders are nocturnal and do not normally get up until late at night. Some will not even get up before midnight. When you get the glider up for playtime the room has to be very dark. Try usig a few nightlights in the room and nothing else. If the room is too bright then they will just hide.
Being that the glider is 3 months oop they should be playing some but they will also sleep a lot. Babies do not generally get up as early as adults, and they sleep more often.
Gliders need 33% protien in their diet. A glider without enough protien or calcium will often times be less active and sleep more. With your gliders age it is probably just the time you are playing and the lighting but diet can have some effect on it.
You say you are feeding a diet you have seen here? Does that mena you are using Bourbons diet or what? Fruit isn't a diet...so the nights you are only feeding fruits and glideraid your glider is not getting enough. If you are feeding Bourbons leadbeaters then it should be fed everyday with fruits and veggies as well as bugs. The glideraid should only be given about 2 times a week.
| Posted by: | Mary/Beck, intr01dc@frank.mtsu.edu | | Subject: | Dangy | | When: | 9:44 PM, 25 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 12.77.81.184 |
Dangy does your leadbeaters have 33% protien? Does the diet have an overall ca:ph ratio of 2:1?
You can't just take healthy items and mix them togetehr for a diet. It has to eb balanced to meet their needs. Many of the leadbeaters out there are not balanced for gliders.
You need to use a diet that is balanced and proven for gliders.
That would mean that the diet was reaserched to meet their specific dietary needs. It is balanced to meet those needs. Then the diet has to be used in 3 or 4 generations of gliders with no diet related health problems. You say you just made one from the various ingredients you saw...thats not a good way to make a glider diet.
Could you please tell us what the bee pollen and fish oil is for?
Please give your gliders a diet that is proven.
here is a page of proven diets:
<a href=http://www.angelfire.com/nb/sugarglider/diet/index.html>http://www.angelfire.com/nb/sugarglider/diet/index.html</a>
This is the diet that I use:
<a href=http://www.angelfire.com/nb/sugarglider/leadbeat.html>http://www.angelfire.com/nb/sugarglider/leadbeat.html</a>
| Posted by: | Kimi, norby@greenepa.net | | Subject: | none | | When: | 10:17 PM, 25 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 209.117.80.97 |
I was going to ask about the bee pollen if it is all natural thats probably a good idea, and one I never thought of. I like to vary the way I make it to make it interesting and as long as its sweet Bitty will eat it. She wont touch it if I put eggs in it, no matter raw,pouched, scrambled, boiled....
| Posted by: | Mary/Beck, intr01dc@frank.mtsu.edu | | Subject: | Variations | | When: | 11:01 PM, 25 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 12.77.81.184 |
You can make some healthy variations but the numbers need to remain close to the same. For instance you could use a different flavor baby ceral..there are like 4 or 5 of them...you could use baby food turky or veal or beef instead of the chicken. Someone in a differen post said there was different flavored honey avaliable. You can make some variations and still have a balanced diet but when you just take some ingredients from different recipies then its not necceserily going to be a balanced diet.
| Posted by: | chrissy, crisi13@aol.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 1:07 AM, 26 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 205.188.196.33 |
my diets BMLeadbeaters in one container, variety of mix fruits and veggies in another, and 4-6 crickets or mealies, everyday, this is a good easy to understand balanced diet,,,,,, my opinion of course...
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