 | Posted by: | Kimi, norby@greenepa.net | | Subject: | What I've decided ( I think) | | When: | 5:50 PM, 25 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 209.117.80.94 |
First thanks to Bourbon for the site, and Dagny, Mary/Beck and Rockismom for the advice. My Lilbit is quite a spoiled creature and She is not used to her cage door being closed when she is up. I have given her a small set of chimes in her cage that she rings when she wakes, ( or any other time she wants attention) to let me know its time to open the door and it stays open all night for her to come and go at her leisure, she has a room I have set up with apple and pear tree limbs, Some really thick rope dangling here and there and assorted toys ect. I really dont want to take that away from her and I dont have another room to be that liberal in. I am picking up Gilbert in about a week and I think what I will do is clean that room out as best as I possibly can ( I use dishsoap to clean her room cause I'm afraid of using anything stronger what do you guys use?) and when Gil arrives I am going to put them together in that room in their seperate cages for a couple of nights and listen for what they have to say. I locked Bittys cage last night for about an hour ( you should have heard the chimes, when I opened the door she ignored me completely for about an hour and for an hour after that she practicaly shot me a bird) and I will continue to get her used to the door being shut for the next week. After a couple of nights, if all sounds well I will let Bitty out to investigate her new companion and if they dont fight thru the bars of his cage I will move a new cage in and take things from there. I realize this plan has a lot of holes in it but my only other option is to move both of their cages into this room for a couple of days and that would definatly discombobulate Bitty. So how about it peoples? I am looking for any input at all because you guys are much more experienced than myself and I really like most of what I have read here, thanks for hearing me out Kimi
O yea, one other thing, what about the inbreeding issue? like if they where to have joeys and daddy w/ daughter type stuff. From what I have read, in the wild this would happen anyway Do you seoerate their children from them? as I said before I have no intentions of selling off any of my friends, I would have to really know and trust someone to let them give a home to any of my charges.
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| Posted by: | Mary/Beck, intr01dc@frank.mtsu.edu | | Subject: | The plan | | When: | 6:06 PM, 25 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 12.77.81.80 |
Ok please do not even pit them in the same room until you have had both the gliders checked by vets.
As for the inbreeding this does not happen in the wild. In the wild the parenst will kick the joeys out of the colony when they get old enough..then the joeys must find a new colony. This prevents inbreeding from happening.
However in captivity they will inbreed if you don't seperate them. They should be seperated before the joeys hit 6 months oop. If you get all the males neutered then you cna keep them together.
If you don't want joeys then i would deffinitly get the male butered before introducing him to your female.
I can see you having problems since your female is so used to being out..but hopefully she will get over it with some time.
I hope it all works out for you. Good luck!
| Posted by: | Rocki'sMom, babygirl@ccp.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 6:24 PM, 25 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 216.60.86.106 |
Kimi, YOur room sounds wonderful. And so does Bitty. I have been fortunate that I have been able to just let each pair of gliders meet and have never had to seperate them. You may just try putting them together right off and of course keep a close eye on them. If they get along, great....Bitty won't have to be locked up at all. Sounds like Bitty is lucky to have you and Gilbert is very fortunate to be wanted by you. I bet they will be great together. If they were mine Kimi, I would just put them together and watch them to make sure they are getting along, that is what I have done with mine and have never had any problems. Best of Luck to you and the lil ones and please keep us posted.
Warmest Regards,
Carolyn
PS. I would love to see a few pics of your glider room, do you have any? If so, please email me one.
| Posted by: | dagny | | Subject: | none | | When: | 6:39 PM, 25 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 24.18.196.238 |
i think it sounds like a petty good idea, just keep a close eye on them and the sounds they make, things they do when you first introduce them...I also agree that you sould check both out w/a vet to make sure medically all is well..I am guessing you wil know how things will be between them very quickly..my only worry for you is do you think you can seperate them if a fight ensues and you are in a large roon (can you catch one/both of em)? I am not saying do the intro in a cage, cause that would probably be worse for your female who is so used to her freedom. just try to put the toys/ropes in different places when you return them..it will be less familliar to your little girl and therefore less territorial. just on a side note, I have two gliders and I got them at seperate times...they took to each other immeadiatly, and I could never seperate them (ex:a friend who they had never met reached for my boy glider, and the girl stood over him and spread out her little "wings" out to protect him) anyway just to let you know..there is a chance they wont fight...just keep an eye on em' I'm sure it'll work out..let us know hiw it goes ;)
| Posted by: | Kimi, norby@greenepa.net | | Subject: | none | | When: | 6:48 PM, 25 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 209.117.80.130 |
Um I have pics of Bitty and her room, I am pretty much ignorant of this machine tho and while I've managed to actually get some of them into the 'puter I cant figure out how to send them let alone find your e-mail address, please be patient, I will learn, I'm stubborn that way. And Mary/Beck I'm sorry I didnt mention it but I considerd the vet visits a first course of action before all the meeting and whatnot. I mean it is just something that is done no matter what so why mention it, or something like that they are both healthy can you suggest a shrink tho?
| Posted by: | Mary/Beck, intr01dc@frank.mtsu.edu | | Subject: | Vets | | When: | 9:47 PM, 25 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 12.77.81.184 |
You would not believe how many people do not get their gliders checked by vets before putting them together. many people assume that is they look healthy then they are. I am glad it is an obvious step for you...but it really isn't for all people.
| Posted by: | Kimi, norby@greenepa.net | | Subject: | none | | When: | 10:01 PM, 25 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 209.117.80.97 |
Really I understand , trust me I do and I should have mentioned it. In fact I live in a really remote part of PA and there was no vet here that even new what a sugarglider was when I got here.(moved here from Tampa FL one year ago) But I found a very dedicated young women that took the time to go to a couple of seminars and I geuss some classes even to help me care for Bitty. She is a wonderful and caring person and I dont know what I would have done without her.
| Posted by: | Mary/Beck, intr01dc@frank.mtsu.edu | | Subject: | PA | | When: | 11:07 PM, 25 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 12.77.81.184 |
Do you know the laws regarding gliders in PA? If you moved there with your glider and didn't fill out the apprpriate paper work then they regard your glider as illegal. If you but the male glider from the college girl and she isn't a PA liscenced breeder then they will aslo consider him to be ilegal. PA has very strict tiles regarding gliders and they have enforced them in the past. Be careful.
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