 | Posted by: | Tina Marie, Torcsena@uswest.net | | Subject: | My little girl died :-( | | When: | 9:23 PM, 01 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 63.225.93.252 |
Here is my story. Woke up Saturday morning to find she wasnt in her cage. Gadget, my Mommy of two babys in her pouch. Searched and searched the house for hours looking for her, at 6 am. Could not find her any where for the life of me. I was getting very upset. Very worked up. 
Found her. On the floor. Dead. A cat had gotten in, something that has happened once before. And got my little girl. We noticed her pouch moving, and both looked at each other (my husband and i). And at the same time we both relised, the two joeys she had in her pouch. So we removed them from her pouch and rushed them to a vet. The vet said they were VERY young and that it didnt look to hopeful, and he sold me some formula for them and told me to feed it by dropper every hour, and to keep the little guys (two boys) warm. So, i did. I rushed them over to THE SUGAR POUCH 'S house, and she helped me out alot. She gave me fleece for blankets for them, and showed me how to feed them, and loaned me heating device for them and a small cage for them and a better dropper than the vet had given me. She was very suportive of me. The babys were VERY small. And they had no fur, and were the cutest lil pink things i ever did see. And i sat up day and night devoted myself to these little guys, feeding them every hour and keeping them warm and cared for. I lost them both. I had to bury my 3rd sugar glider this week. All the while this was happening.. this site was down, and i needed to tell my story in hopes that you will all know what i am going through and experiancing right now. This is so hard and so painful. And now ive got this 3 year old male who has always had a mate, and is now all alone, with new owners on top of it. This is a tough journey for him and i, and i need all the help and support that i can get right now. Thank you all for listening.
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| Posted by: | Mary/Beck, intr01dc@frank.mtsu.edu | | Subject: | So Sad | | When: | 9:32 PM, 01 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 12.77.121.148 |
This is so sad...I am very sorry. Do you know how she got out fo the cage? I am so sorry for you. The babies were so young..you tried your best.
I hope your male woll be okay..I know its hard but try to spend a lot of time with him. This will be very hard on him.
I think this story could help a lot of people. It would be great if you could post it on the real stories section on glider central. I know its hard but it could help so many people.
<a href=http://www.sugarglider.net>http://www.sugarglider.net</a> Click on board then click on real stories
| Posted by: | Angela, AngelaM87@aol.com | | Subject: | Sorry | | When: | 9:35 PM, 01 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 205.188.193.56 |
I'm so sorry. That's so sad
| Posted by: | Tina Marie, Torcsena@uswest.net | | Subject: | none | | When: | 9:40 PM, 01 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 63.225.93.252 |
She got out through the little door i had her food dish in. She opened it. I knew she did this, and told my husband before he went to bed, to take out their food dishes. He didnt. I blamed him, yelled and cryed at him. But i shouldnt have. He felt guilty enough. This has really been hard on all of us. As for my male, he has been in a bonding pouch on me since this happened! All day, and at night we both play and cuddle with him as much as possible. Right now there are days he does not even want to come out of his pouch at all. He is VERY depressed. We are trying. I have read alot of games and things to do for them, and i figure since he is so used to being with another glider, that he will be bored also, so we put differant things in his cage each night for him to do. I hung feathers one night, he liked that. Another night i put a meal worm in a toilet paper roll for him to play with. Keeping him occupied and loving him is all i can do for him right now. He wont eat much, so im trying to give him his favorite foods so i can get something in him. I reach in his pouch and give him some pets every now and again and he makes little barking noises at me so i know he apriciates and aknowledges what i am trying to do for him. He is really in mourning right now. He is used to sleeping with another glider, so having him on me, he can hear my heart beat and feel my warmth, sometimes i put my hand in there and cup him so that it is like i am holding him but he still has the comfort of his pouch, because he doesnt let me hold him in my hand right now. He will climb on me and sleep on me, as long as it is his choice , and he isnt cupped in my hand. So i am doing all that i think i can. I am worryed about him alot right now. This is devastating for him. I had her for 3 weeks and fell in love. He had her for 3 years.
| Posted by: | Kimi, norby@greenepa.net | | Subject: | none | | When: | 9:43 PM, 01 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 209.117.80.20 |
OMG I wish I could help, I can only tell you that I do feel for you and your lil ones and their momma... and words are insufficient .... Wishing you and daddy the best feelings I can send.... Kimi
| Posted by: | The Sugar Pouch, the_sugar_pouch@hotmail.com | | Subject: | Hugs...... | | When: | 9:52 PM, 01 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 24.4.254.137 |
Hugs.... Hugs.... Hugs....
Michelle, aka "The Sugar Glider Nutter"
The Sugar Pouch
the_sugar_pouch@hotmail.com
proud mommie to Mee'sa & Tico, Luna & Kinks, Sassie & Fraz
| Posted by: | chrissy, crisi13@aol.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 10:39 PM, 01 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 64.12.104.44 |
poor thing, sorry for the both of you! Do you plan to get him another mate soon? That may help, good luck and many hugs and hopes.
Chrissy
| Posted by: | Tina Marie, Torcsena@uswest.net | | Subject: | none | | When: | 11:43 PM, 01 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 63.225.93.64 |
Yes i am hoping to find him a female very soon. But it just cant be any female. She has to be as special as his first mate was, and as special as he is. I think i want an adult female. But ive got to find one first.. and the right one. May be hard and take awhile.
| Posted by: | TammyH | | Subject: | none | | When: | 4:03 AM, 02 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 146.235.4.8 |
My sincerest condolences to you and yours on the loss of Gadget and her babies -- I totally empathize with you.
I hope you find him a good mate soon --
| Posted by: | Jane | | Subject: | none | | When: | 6:50 AM, 02 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 63.84.193.2 |
Sorry to hear your news. Are these your cats that are killing your gliders? It is SO dangerous to have prey and predator in the same house. Many people post it is ok but then stories like this happen time and time again. If you spend lots of time with your male he will be ok on his own. I would really advise against bringing another glider into a house with predators (cats/dogs) in it. Also look closely at your cage and make it fort knox make sure there is no chance of a glider escaping again. Can everyone post their ideas about how to make cages secure. I use cage clips from Klubertanz but they are sometimes clumsy. I wish I could find a supply of the clips on a spring I sometimes see on commercial cages.
| Posted by: | Lu | | Subject: | none | | When: | 7:40 AM, 02 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 12.77.149.157 |
I'm heart-broken!!!
| Posted by: | Robin, 4dbirdie@bellsouth.net | | Subject: | none | | When: | 9:10 AM, 02 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 208.61.132.76 |
I am so sorry on the loss of three of your children. Thank you for sharing your story and reminding everyone of the dangers of other animals and escapees.
Wishing you lots of luck with your male...:)
| Posted by: | Tina Marie, TorCsena@uswest.net | | Subject: | none | | When: | 9:23 AM, 02 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 207.225.94.185 |
I DO NOT OWN CATS, I AM HIGHLY ALLERGIC TO CATS ! I am not stupid to put my sugar gliders in danger like that any ways. I beleive i said in my story that the cat got into my home some how. And as for protecting them so they dont get out of their cage, we have ties on all the doors of the cage, very safe and sturdy cage. But that particular night i had asked my husband to remove the food dishes from the cage before he went to bed, because she could get out the food dishes, he didnt do so.
| Posted by: | Jane | | Subject: | none | | When: | 11:16 AM, 02 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 63.84.193.2 |
Tina Marie you answered my question about the cat, it is good you do not own a cat, many people DO. Unfortunately it sounds like you have local cats that need guarded against at all times. Cat owners sometimes have no idea about the devestation their pets can do. If you know who owns this cat I would put in a formal complaint to your towns animal control officer and to the owner. They need to take responsibility for their pet. As to cage security, please consider changing your food bowls. There are dishes called coop cups. Sugarglider.net and the ferretstore both sell them. The holders are bolted onto the side of your cage at whatever height you want. The dish can then be easily added and removed without danger. My comments led you to lash out but your answers show what could be changed to help. Please take my comments constructively as they are meant.
| Posted by: | Mary/Beck, intr01dc@frank.mtsu.edu | | Subject: | Adult Female | | When: | 6:00 AM, 02 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 12.77.121.10 |
It is VERY hard to find a tame adult female for sell by herself. Good luck to you in finding one. I think your male will appreciate it but for now he does need the time to grieve.
I hope you are able to find one. You may have to get a baby and just have the male neutered.
I would deffinitly get my cage fixed before getting another glider.
| Posted by: | Tina Marie, TorCsena@uswest.net | | Subject: | none | | When: | 6:12 AM, 02 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 207.225.95.150 |
There is nothing wrong with my cage, i have a good cage. The female was smart and found out how to open the DOOR. She could open the door, but only if the food dish was there for her to stand on to get to it. So we would just always put the food dishes away before bed. My male cant get out. She was able to. We put the food dishes away before we go to bed any ways, just to be safe, in case some day he decideds to go ahead and try.
| Posted by: | Tina Marie, TorCsena@uswest.net | | Subject: | none | | When: | 6:52 PM, 02 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 207.225.94.184 |
If there is any one selling or hears of a female glider in washington, please notify me ! Torcsena@uswest.net thank you
| Posted by: | Tina Marie, TorCsena@uswest.net | | Subject: | none | | When: | 1:33 AM, 03 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 207.225.94.184 |
You guys have really helped out alot ! thank you. talking helps. I really love the chat room, i feel i can really get to know many of you in there ! It is great! Thank you for all the support i have recieved, and for loving my little girl also.
| Posted by: | monkey | | Subject: | none | | When: | 5:15 PM, 03 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 209.86.167.47 |
No offense, but obviously you do not have a good cage! These people are trying to help you avoid having another glider killed. Appreciate that and stop defending yourself. I have a cat and a dog in my house with my gliders, but no worries. There is only one door on my gliders cage and it is secured by two slide latches which lock into place when closed. Unless my cat grows thumbs and learns how to fly it will never be a danger to my little ones. Needless to say I would worry about my own security if stray cats could infiltrate my home at will. What's next a serial killer??? It is a lesson learned to better the future!
| Posted by: | Tina Marie, Torcsena@uswest.net | | Subject: | none | | When: | 6:53 PM, 03 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 207.225.83.148 |
You dont know my situation nor do you have the right to judge me or my actions. Nor do you have the right to poke fun at my situation.
| Posted by: | Diane, Gizmoblue8@aol.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 10:43 PM, 03 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 152.163.201.214 |
Sorry to hear about your loss
| Posted by: | Tina Marie, Torcsena@uswest.net | | Subject: | none | | When: | 11:47 PM, 03 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 63.225.91.77 |
Thank you diane!
| Posted by: | Gliderlover, Angie_nightgirl@hotmail.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 12:10 AM, 04 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 24.65.233.144 |
monkey, it is extremely rude and unfair to attack anyone while they are grieving a loss. Tina Marie, I'm so sorry to hear of your sad situation.
Angie
| Posted by: | Erik, admin@gliderspot.com | | Subject: | oh, sooo sorry | | When: | 12:26 AM, 04 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 12.82.171.212 |
Oh my. So sorry to hear of your loss.
Tina, which Washington do you live in?? The State, or the Capital??
Condolinces
Erik and Co.
| Posted by: | Tina Marie, TorCsena@uswest.net | | Subject: | none | | When: | 11:29 AM, 04 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 63.225.93.142 |
Erik, i live in Washington state. Washougal Washington which is near camas and vancouver. Thank you. Thank you as well Angie ! It is nice to have people who understand and who support me. It has helped me alot to deal with this. Today is my one week point of when i lost my lil girl.
| Posted by: | Sarah | | Subject: | none | | When: | 6:34 PM, 04 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 216.106.44.133 |
I have went through the same experience with one of my sugar gliders too. My moms dog got ahold of mine buti know what you have went through i wen throught the seam thing (about your cage) adn thsi is a helpful hint to everyone who has a animal in their house with a sugarglider, the best thing to do is when you get a cage you probably need to take bread ties adn tie them around everything that hook againist each other this is the exact thing i did adn i have no problem now also when you get in and out through the door i always keep a bread tie on there also. see we had our sugar glider on a chai rin my roomm when my dog had got in there adn knocked it over and the door had opened with the babie in it she had reached her nose in there and got him, adn i am only 14 so that was tragic for me but lik ei say i will always keep bread ties on there. some of you might say why don't you get rid of the dog well i can't she is my moms dog and she will not get rid of her. So i keep Goliath (sugar glider) on my dresser and have lots of bread ties on his cage adn i know thaqt she can't get it open because i have tested it before i have took the cage without my babi ein it adn put it down my mothers dog went after it but she couldn't get it open for nothin g she didn't know that goliath wasn't in it though. i have read everyons stories adn tina marie i am so sorry but i know exactly how you felt when we couldn't fine my other sugarglider we wen tloking fo rhim adn i was gettin mad cause i was searching for him in my room when he was in the kitchen the dog had took him with her i found him right by her cage i bou tkilled that dog though. But lukckily mine was not related to any of the ones i have now all of mine are boys again tina marie i am so sorry
| Posted by: | Kitara, fuzzybabies@juno.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 10:58 PM, 04 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 63.22.231.253 |
Tina you emailed me pictures of your cage and while you do have nice toys and bedding and food dishes I have to admit I was a bit disappionted to see a bird cage. I do not like bird cages for gliders for several reasons some you know first hand. I know you love your glider and take good care of him but his houding is NOT a proper glider cage. You may email me if you want to talk about this.
Kitara
| Posted by: | Kimi, norby@greenepa.net | | Subject: | how rude! | | When: | 12:06 AM, 05 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 209.117.80.146 |
Monkey how can you possibly say your cat cant hurt your glider? Just being around the cage alone and making your glider nervous is enough, not to mention that cats like to jump on cages, have a tendency towards being nocternal themselves, and in all liklyhood has a great time just making the poor thing jump around his/her cage by walking around it, jumping on it ect. I wish you would have left an e-mail address so I could have written this to you and you alone but you didnt and I gotta say whats on my mind. If you feel a need to reply to this, e-mail ME! dont post it here.
Tina Marie, and everyone else, please forgive me for continuing this thread and/or being rude I know this is not what this forum is for and I'm sorry but I couldnt help myself....there was no other way for me to say that to him/her. And again, very sorry for your loss... and the inconsideration of others Kimi
| Posted by: | Tina Marie, Torcsena@uswest.net | | Subject: | none | | When: | 12:59 AM, 05 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 63.225.93.134 |
Kitara, My cage is NOT a bird cage, it is a glider cage ! Sugar glider cage from quality cages in portland oregon. Same cages that Michelle aka sugar pouch has for her gliders ! It was made specifically for sugar gliders! Thank you to all the rest of you for your support and coments, you have all helped me through this thing and answered all my 100 questions i have about my little boy. It is so nice to have a place i can come to where you all understand.
| Posted by: | Kitara, fuzzybabies@juno.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 1:17 AM, 05 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 63.31.46.103 |
So this company make GLIDER cages with verticle bars?
| Posted by: | Tina Marie, Torcsena@uswest.net | | Subject: | none | | When: | 2:02 AM, 05 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 63.225.93.134 |
Yes! Quality cages. As well as where ever Michelle ordered hers from.
| Posted by: | Kitara, fuzzybabies@juno.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 2:20 AM, 05 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 63.22.231.139 |
well thats good to know, wont buy from that company.
| Posted by: | The Sugar Pouch, the_sugar_pouch@hotmail.com | | Subject: | Cages... | | When: | 4:22 AM, 05 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 24.4.254.137 |
Tina..
This is not were I bought my cages.. please do not speak for me, when you are not sure if you are correct or not.....
My cages are from Prevue.
Qaulity Cage does produce a Sugar Glider Cage. The Sugar Glider Cage that I have seen advertised by them has the 1 x 1/2 spacing on their bars.
They do however make other cages that have larger spacing.
I do not know of the cage that you have.
Please again... do not speak for me... let me do that.. I get in enough trouble with one mouth.. I do not need two.
I am sorry that this letter has a angry tone to it, but if there is one thing that irrates me more, is someone speaking for me when I did not ask for them too.....
Michelle, aka "The Sugar Glider Nutter"
The Sugar Pouch 
the_sugar_pouch@hotmail.com
proud mommie to Mee'sa & Tico, Luna & Kinks, Sassie & Fraz
| Posted by: | Heather | | Subject: | none | | When: | 12:16 AM, 06 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 4.4.54.229 |
I am very sorry to hear about your gliders. I am a new owner starting today. I am curious to know what is wrong with a bird cage. I am keeping my glider in a very large one now, but if there are potential problems I would like to know. Thank you!
| Posted by: | Tina Marie, TorCsena@uswest.net | | Subject: | none | | When: | 1:08 PM, 06 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 63.225.91.213 |
ALOT OF GLIDER OWNERS USE THE LARGE CAGES FOR THEIR GLIDERS ! THEY ARE GOOD ! They just need enough room to run and jump and play, so if it is big enough, it is ok.
| Posted by: | Bourbon | | Subject: | Cages make a difference | | When: | 1:39 PM, 06 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 216.248.35.139 |
Cages do make a difference, Tina Marie, I don't know exactly why you told your story whether it was for "hopes to get another glider", "comfort" or so "you could let others know what can happen" I myself wwould like to believe that it was the latter of the three. and if that is the case, then yes what all has said is very important issues..
IF you can't stop the strays from coming into your home, with that same cage, you again will have another death. Bird cages are NOT highly recommended for gliders, Michelle the one sold by prevue , I think that is the one Tina has , it is a black 3' tall cage with the bird cage type bars of 3 inches by 1/2.. I may be wrong, but if this is the same one that I have seen, the biggest problem with it is at the top where the bars curve over from the side to the top, as that is the weakest spot on those cages.. if you can stick your fingers in it, a glider can get it's head stuck in it. The recommended cage bars size max is 1"X1/2" the reason for that is because cats can't get into it, gliders can not get their heads through it. To jump on the defensive with a lot of these owners that have repeatedly seen the same stories over and over again, is rediculous, these are avoidable.. In one part you say that you hubby left the cage door open, in another you say she figured out how to open the door. I don't know which one it was and to be honest right now with the defensive attitude I really don't care. What I do know is. that untill the problems are fixed, you will be taking the same chances with any other glider you add to that cage.For those that think I am being rude... tough...
Monkey.. I agree, if a cat can get in and has repeatedly, then I would myself be wworried about some ONE else getting into my home as well.
| Posted by: | Tina Marie, Torcsena@uswest.net | | Subject: | none | | When: | 3:11 PM, 06 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 207.225.95.201 |
Ok, my doors on my cage are the kind that slide up, and you put the food dishes in there, With the food dishes in there she could open the door. When the food dishes were not in there, she could not. So before bed each night i would take the food dishes from there and place them on the floor of the cage. My husband forgot to do this before bed.
As to how the cat got in the house, it is hard to explain so i just left it at .. the cat got in. Ok, This house i live in is a house on a house type thing. I live in the Daylight basement which has been made into an apartment. There is a door seperating the two homes. The people in the home above mine own a cat, who is usually put out at night. And the door seperating our two homes is NEVER open. That particular night one of the children from up there had opened up the door and it was left open. That same exact night the food dishes were not put away by my husband. Alot of things went wrong that night to lead up to this happening. Either way, it happened and the blame cannot be put on any single person. I supose i should have put the food dishes down on the floor myself before going to bed, instead of entrusting in my husband to do so. I now have bread ties on all of the doors of the cage and put the food dishes on the bottom of the cage. And i am VERY watchful of the door each and every night to make sure that it is closed before bed. I posted on here because it was a VERY hard time and i didnt think any one would understand what i was going through except for other glider owners. And i was also hoping to help out other new glider owners such as myself who dont know to keep the doors secure because the gliders can and will get out of their cage ! You are right, these type of things are avoidable, and it will certainly not happen in the future. I learned a very valuble lesson, it is a shame it had to be at such a high price. With this same cage this same thing will NOT happen again, because i have taken the proper action and closed those doors with ties, and will not be feeding them through them any more. I love my glider and would NEVER ever want any thing to happen to him, and certainly didnt want any thing to happen to my little girl. This has been a horrible thing which i feel much guilt for. And will never forgive myself for. I dont blame any one but myself.
| Posted by: | Jane | | Subject: | none | | When: | 3:32 PM, 06 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 63.84.193.2 |
Your food dishes should not be on the floor. It is not good for gliders. I told you before look into coop cups which can be screwed onto the sides of the cage safely at a reasonable height ie 3 or 4 feet of the ground. Your cage is a bird cage retrofitted to be a glider cage. Please get another one before getting a new glider otherwise the chances are high another glider may die. If a glider can get out a cage it is a DEATH trap. Gliders if they get out while you are not there to protect them they can die many ways not just because of cats. We are trying to point out the obvious, your cage will kill, what price do you have to pay before you see your cage is only fit for the trashcan.
| Posted by: | Tina Marie, Torcsena@uswest.net | | Subject: | none | | When: | 3:35 PM, 06 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 207.225.95.201 |
Your right, after reading my own posts, i should not have been defensive with jane, jane i do apologize. I had no right to jump on you like that and dont know why i did.
| Posted by: | Tina Marie, Torcsena@uswest.net | | Subject: | none | | When: | 3:38 PM, 06 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 207.225.95.201 |
My glider got out of her cage through the door which i have secured. I have fixed the problem. You are right about the food dishes, i actually have seen them at the exotic pet store down the street and will go pick some up today.
| Posted by: | Gliderlover, Angie_nightgirl@hotmail.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 3:39 PM, 06 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 24.65.233.144 |
I dont understand why everyone is being so hard on Tina Marie? She is grieving a loss right now and I thought that the goal is to help and not hurt. I know how important the discussion of cages is but cant someone start a new topic if they feel like arguing who's cage is better? I'm glad that you have found a way to make things better Tina, you may also want to try putting your cage in a high place. I have cats in my house so I keep the door to the glider room closed. I also have a board in the small area under the door to make sure that they cant get out even if they get out of their cage.
Angie
| Posted by: | Tina Marie, Torcsena@uswest.net | | Subject: | none | | When: | 3:41 PM, 06 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 207.225.95.201 |
Thank you Angie ! I apriciate it. I have also hung my cage! My husband and i bought hooks and have put them securely in the wall and hung the cage on the hooks. He LOVES IT ! It is not only safe for him this way, it is also something he likes ! He likes to play on the outside of his cage at night now ! He feels like king of the hill !
| Posted by: | Jane | | Subject: | none | | When: | 3:42 PM, 06 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 63.84.193.2 |
Tina Marie, thank goodness you are starting to see the problems. You can sort things but we needed you to see the problems. That is why we were getting peeved. If the situation changes then you will be able to move on safely to keep happy gliders.
Thank you for posting like that you make me feel so much happier. We are just trying to keep your male and any possible new girlfriends alive.
| Posted by: | The Sugar Pouch, the_sugar_pouch@hotmail.com | | Subject: | Bourbon | | When: | 4:27 PM, 06 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 24.4.254.137 |
The cage that I have, has 1/2 x 2 inch spaces, of heavy gauge coated wire. But you are right about the corner being larger spacing, but, as you recommended I checked to see if I could get my fingers into them, and it is imposible. The gauge of wire, that they are made of, is SUPER strong. I would have to get out a pair of pliers and push/and pull with allot of strenth to even get them to move. (and that is just to get them to move, not bend)
Thank you again, for the info, never hurts to double check myself..!! 
Michelle, aka "The Sugar Glider Nutter"
The Sugar Pouch
the_sugar_pouch@hotmail.com
proud mommie to Mee'sa & Tico, Luna & Kinks, Sassie & Fraz
| Posted by: | Tina Marie, Torcsena@uswest.net | | Subject: | none | | When: | 4:50 PM, 06 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 207.225.95.201 |
I as well, did the finger check. Same thing. No way in heck that i can get my finger in there ! And i pulled on the bars , pulled HARD on the bars, there is no getting those things to bend !
| Posted by: | Kitara, fuzzybabies@juno.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 5:52 PM, 06 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 63.31.46.124 |
getting the bars to bend is not the problem, it is being able to get your finger through the bars. If you can do that then the glider can also get their heads through, thats the danger.
kitara
| Posted by: | Tina Marie, Torcsena@uswest.net | | Subject: | none | | When: | 6:04 PM, 06 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 207.225.93.119 |
ahhhh ok... well.. there is no way my finger is getting through those bars ! And i have thin fingers too. At least id like to think so.. alot thinner than my guys head !
| Posted by: | CindynZia, preddyfairy@aol.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 12:40 AM, 07 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 152.163.207.187 |
whoa i was just thinking about getting that cage made by prevue. it is the epoxy coated one that is 1/2x2 spacing, 3 foot tall on a stand, am i right this is the same cage? Should I not buy this cage?
Thanks
| Posted by: | Tina Marie, TorCsena@uswest.net | | Subject: | none | | When: | 1:35 AM, 07 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 63.225.93.167 |
It is a very nice cage !
| Posted by: | Jennae, myjenny@mpinet.net | | Subject: | none | | When: | 8:07 AM, 07 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 216.53.212.66 |
Question, when you say "get your finger through the bars," are you talking about the WHOLE finger, or even if you can get a little bit of your finger. Though my glider is too young to go in it right now, I went ahead and bought a cage with coated bars, I can get the top half of my finger in it, but my finger won't go pass that..I guess you would call it my first knuckle? And I have reeeaaally thin fingers.
| Posted by: | Lu, frufru33@hotmail.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 9:33 AM, 07 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 12.77.150.43 |
I eas wondering the same thing.
| Posted by: | Bourbon | | Subject: | none | | When: | 11:29 AM, 07 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 216.248.35.238 |
take some time , really examine your gliders head, you will see that it is actually elongated, it itsn't that big at all, when they turn their head side ways, you would be surprised how small of a space they can get their head into.remember they only have to fit it corner to corner. make a small hole with your hands when they want to get in or out of something.. a drawstring bag pulled all the way sshut, they can get through.. It doesn't take much at all, but you have to learn your glider.
| Posted by: | SugarT, pruplepelican@cs.com | | Subject: | Bread ties for cages--Warning | | When: | 7:13 PM, 07 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 205.188.197.53 |
Some gliders will chew through the ties, and my friend claims one of her gliders can untie them! I use a spring type hook that's used to clip a key ring to a belt loop with (can be found at hardware stores). They are easier and quicker to take on and off the doors, and the gliders can't undo them.
| Posted by: | Tina Marie, TorCsena@uswest.net | | Subject: | none | | When: | 7:27 PM, 07 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 207.225.83.139 |
Thanks for the info ! Sounds like it not only works better, but it is more convienient.
| Posted by: | Tina Marie, Torcsena@uswest.net | | Subject: | none | | When: | 10:59 PM, 07 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 207.225.94.64 |
| Posted by: | Tina Marie, Torcsena@uswest.net | | Subject: | none | | When: | 1:14 AM, 08 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 63.225.94.203 |
Sugar T do you by chance know what the name of these little things are ? Or what part of the harware store i would locate them?
| Posted by: | chrissy, crisi13@aol.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 2:17 AM, 08 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 152.163.197.48 |
make sure to get metal ones the plastic ones break easily, and you can find them near where you would buy chain by the foot..... ask the hardware guy......
| Posted by: | Sheila, kwillson@aol.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 8:36 AM, 08 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 152.163.204.199 |
Those cage cups are here. These are the ones that screw on the back. Here they are. They come in different sizes
<a href=http://www.pets.com/cgi-bin/puppy/products/detail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=YES&oid=46800&parPage=1>http://www.pets.com/cgi-bin/puppy/products/detail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=YES&oid=46800&parPage=1</a>
| Posted by: | Jane | | Subject: | none | | When: | 9:05 AM, 08 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 63.84.193.2 |
the cage cup you posted were not teh ones I was imagining. Look here
<a href=http://www.ferretstore.com/pm-203.html>http://www.ferretstore.com/pm-203.html</a> this shows the 5 oz one. These are lightweight easily added and removed and the stainless steel is easily cleaned in the dishwasher to prevent germs spreading in plastic cracks etc. The coop cups with the bolts are the best. I find mine easily at petco, the hanging ones I find are not easy to add to the cage.
| Posted by: | Tina Marie, TorCsena@uswest.net | | Subject: | none | | When: | 2:22 PM, 08 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 207.225.94.103 |
Ahhh thank you guys.
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