 | Posted by: | Pick, kwahlen@execpc.com | | Subject: | Switching sleep patterns | | When: | 7:54 PM, 06 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 169.207.113.221 |
Hello again. I was thinking about gliders(as I seem to do alot) and thought that you can flip other animals bio clocks and I was wondering if you can do the same to sugar gliders? or does that hurt there eyes or something?
Thanks alot
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| Posted by: | chrissy, crisi13@aol.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 12:32 AM, 07 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 152.163.197.59 |
the sunlight will damage their eyes, I think the light makes them want to sleep,
| Posted by: | Mary/Beck, intr01dc@frank.mtsu.edu | | Subject: | I wouldnt | | When: | 5:33 PM, 07 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 12.77.82.15 |
You could do this..but it wouldnt be very fair to the gliders. They are nocturnal animals..they have nocturnal eyesight..and the UV rays from the sun can permentatly damage their eyes. Also the stress in trying to get them up durring the day would be hard on them until thye got used to it.
I think its a muhc better idea to wake them up in the evenings.
| Posted by: | dagny | | Subject: | none | | When: | 8:12 PM, 07 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 24.18.196.238 |
unless you had them in a room where it would be dark all day & with the lights on all night
you would have a hard time trying to convince a glider to play when there is light..they hate it (not to mention it really could hurt their eyes 
| Posted by: | Mary/Beck, intr01dc@frank.mtsu.edu | | Subject: | dark rooms | | When: | 8:45 PM, 07 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 12.77.82.15 |
if the glider was in a dark room all day then they would never absorb any uv rays witch they need to absorb vit d3
| Posted by: | dagny | | Subject: | none | | When: | 9:10 PM, 07 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 24.18.196.238 |
what is the differance between between being in the dark durring the day or at night? they are not getting natural sunlight inside ither way..i have a hard time believing evan if the cage is near a window that gliders are getting sun through their little pouches while asleep, and you do not need uv rays to process vit d3- you need vit d3 to process calcium.
| Posted by: | dagny | | Subject: | none | | When: | 9:44 PM, 07 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 24.18.196.238 |
i realized that i wasnt super clear about the vit d3 /calcium thing. basically, vitamin d3 alows the body to absorb calcium, if you are out in the sunlight ultraviolet radiation will cause your body(or your gliders body) to create vitmin d3 naturally. however if you are using a calcium suppliment with vitamin d3 in it (like rep-cal) than there is no need to get the vit d3 from the sun. regardless i think that gliders do not spend much time getting hit by sunlight as they are nocturnal and dont like it. this is why it is important to give them vitamin d3..to prevent prolems that can be caused by lack of calcium.
| Posted by: | chrissy, crisi13@aol.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 12:33 AM, 08 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 152.163.197.77 |
gliders, (at least mine do) get up during the day from time to time to eat or drink then go back to bed, so they do get some exposure to the daylight
| Posted by: | Mary/Beck, intr01dc@frank.mtsu.edu | | Subject: | Dangy | | When: | 12:41 AM, 08 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 12.77.80.15 |
They only need a little sunlight to absorb the calcium. 30 minutes a day is what most vets say...,.maybe an hr. The rays are absorbed through the pouches as long as sunlight is allowed into the room. I have an AE glider that goes everywhere with me. Plenty of sunlight is filtered into his pouch. People with AE gliders should never have a problem with this. People that don't have a window in their gliders room can use a reptile light on the other side of the room for an hr a day. The uv rays can be safely absorbed while they sleep in the pouch without damaging their eyes. It should be on the other side of the room so that it does not cause the gliders to get hot.
| Posted by: | dagny | | Subject: | none | | When: | 9:32 AM, 08 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 24.18.196.238 |
my point was that if someone really wanted to switch their gliders bio clocks.. and they did not get sunlight...that the issue of not absorbing calcium would not be an issue as long as they were being suplimented with vit d3, (which does that job)
| Posted by: | Mary/Beck, intr01dc@frank.mtsu.edu | | Subject: | repcal | | When: | 7:12 PM, 08 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 12.77.80.134 |
Please read the repcal package. It saus that the vit d3 only aids in the absorbtion. If you contact the company they will tell you that for full absorbtion you need uv rays. They suggested useing a reptile light for 2 hrs a day for complete absorbtion...but because gliders are so small most peiople recommend 30 minutes a day. They still need a source of UV rays in order to fully absorb it.
| Posted by: | Jim M, dr.goodnight@att.net | | Subject: | none | | When: | 9:42 PM, 08 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 12.75.99.144 |
PICK,
Dagny is correct. All you get from the sun Is Vitamin D (as in humans, all you need is 15 minutes of sun exposure). You do not get calcium from the sun, but the vitamin D will aid in absorption. That is why milk is fortified with Vitamin D for human consumption. YOU DO NOT NEED SUNLIGHT FOR FULL ABSORPTION. THAT IS A PROMO FROM THE COMPANY, SO THAT YOU BUY THEIR PRODUCT. In order to illustrate my point, calcium is needed in the bones, primarily. UV rays will get filtered out as they strike the glider's body ( or absorbed if you want to call it that). It will only make so much Vit D, depending on the length and duration of exposure. However, if you feed the glider Vit D and after digestion, it will be transported through the blood to the appropriate places, as Vit D, not any other by-product. Either way, it is getting Vit D, just like humans would. BUT UV ALONE does not aid in calcium uptake.
| Posted by: | Jennae, myjenny@mpinet.net | | Subject: | none | | When: | 11:24 AM, 10 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 216.53.212.118 |
Not to veer from the subject, but what is an "AE glider?"
| Posted by: | Mary/Beck, intr01dc@frank.mtsu.edu | | Subject: | American Express | | When: | 8:15 PM, 10 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 12.77.81.96 |
It means you take your glider everywhere with you.
| Posted by: | dagny | | Subject: | none | | When: | 10:32 PM, 13 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 24.18.196.238 |
and make sure that they get vit d with their calcium (they should have that regardless) 
| Posted by: | Lu, frufru33@hotmail.com | | Subject: | Poor things! | | When: | 10:53 PM, 13 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 65.33.207.181 |
That is totally mean! Gliders are NOCTURNAL!!! Why would anyone want it otherwise? If one wants a pet to play with during the day, then they should get a puppy! It IS bad for humans to sleep during the day and work or be active every night. For us, night time is to rest. Of course, there are people who love the night time, I am one, but it's not our nature. We don't get the same rest. but, regardless, if we change our sleep patterns, it's our choice. A glider would never CHOOSE to not be nocturnal anymore.
| Posted by: | Rocki'sMom, babygirl@ccp.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 10:57 PM, 13 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 216.60.86.115 |
Jenny,
It can be very unhealthy to switch a gliders days and nites around. You uncle may have adjusted just fine, but lot of people and animals don't. I have tried to work a night shift position and became very ill during that time because my body would not adjust. Also, the light can cause serious injury to the gliders eyes. It would be cruel to force a nocturnal being to became non nocturnal.
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