 | Posted by: | Linda | | Subject: | shes worrying me already! | | When: | 9:29 AM, 27 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 152.163.195.193 |
Hi,
As Im sure most you know, I got my baby girl on Friday night. She was scared at first, normal. She ate the first night. Havent been bitten YET. She doesnt really crab alot at all. She ate good for the first couple days. Last night she was weird. Didnt get up at all. Only once for a minute. When I offered treats she wouldnt take them. Then she went back to sleep. This mornin I saw she didnt eat any food. Is this ok? Only thing she would eat is a peice of grape and her monkey biscut. If thats all she'll eat, do I give it to her?
Also, when she goes around in her cage, she walks like her feet are heavy or her claws get stuck. Is this ok? I made sure I gave her her D3 and her protein in fear of the leg problems!
The cage is ok. Its made for gliders.
Help! need advice! 
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| Posted by: | Rocki'sMom, babygirl@ccp.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 11:45 AM, 27 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 216.60.86.124 |
Sounds like she needs to be seen by the vet. The not eating thing is not so alarming, cause that is normal for gliders when they are adjusting to new home, new people, new surroundings etc, but the "heavy" leg thing is alarming. I would take her to the vet ASAP better to be safe than sorry.
| Posted by: | Linda | | Subject: | none | | When: | 11:53 AM, 27 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 152.163.195.199 |
VET?
already? I will take her. But do you think the trip to the vet will be more stressful for the little thing when she just got home? If I do take her what do I bring her in?
She seems to get around ok, its just like her feet are getting caught in the bars or something?
shes just a baby, do you think that the bars are a little to far apart for her? 
| Posted by: | Barb | | Subject: | none | | When: | 2:15 PM, 27 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 63.178.65.142 |
Linda, is your baby warm enough? Are her feet cold? It sounds like she might need calcium..Did you try putting some yogurt on your finger to offer her....Try keeping her in a pouch under your shirt, or in a pocket - on your person. This might calm her down. Try other kinds of fruit too. Mealworms are generally loved by glider. Some times I've had to break them open and get some of the liquid insides of a mealworm on the gliders face - so it would lick it off in order to get it to try the mealworm for the first time. Keep us posted. Good luck.
| Posted by: | Linda | | Subject: | none | | When: | 2:31 PM, 27 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 152.163.195.208 |
Barb,
Thanks again for your advice. I dont know about her being warm enough, I cant get close enough to see! Its not cold in my room, where I keep her. 70ish. I want to hold her or carry her around but when I get to close she crabs I know this is normal, I had her on me in the pouch once and she woke up an acted like she was gonna make a run for it! So I put her back after a few minutes. I gave her yogurt and I give her lots of vitamins also. So her calcium should be good, providing she eats tonight! Can I have your email addy? Sounds like Im gonna need alot of advice w/ this one! Havent named her yet...
Thanks.
| Posted by: | Rachel2, SugarGMommy@aol.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 2:44 PM, 27 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 152.163.194.208 |
With the HLP, what she is eating NOW isn't as important as what she was eating BEFORE you got her. Do you know what her diet was then? This would be the reason for her developing the heavy legs. One week's worth of your diet wouldn't cause her to suddenly fall ill. I would definately take her the the vet. Regular suppliments aren't gonna do the trick if it is, in fact, HLP. Also try not to go overboard on the suppliments, too much is as bad as too little. What diet is she on? I use Bourbon's Modified Leadbeaters. This has a calcium suppliment already mixed in. If you use this then more suppliments are not needed. You can find the recipe for this and other diet plans on this link: <a href=http://www.angelfire.com/nb/sugarglider/index.html>http://www.angelfire.com/nb/sugarglider/index.html</a>
This is a great index of pages that are helpful to new glider owners. Click on the Diets, Ingrediants link. If you do not use this then only a sprinkle over the food a couple of times a week is plenty. As for what to bring her to the vet in, you could use her pouch or if you are uncomfortable with her being in the pouch only, put her pouch in a shoebox(with airholes of course). This way if she gets out of her pouch she will still be in the box. Also make sure your vet is knowledgeable and experienced in treating gliders. Hope this helps!
| Posted by: | Sarah Schoonover, scarlette@zoomtown.com | | Subject: | Heavy legs? | | When: | 7:01 PM, 27 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 216.196.168.54 |
I just adopted an approx. 15 mo. old male sugar glider from my cousin who decided she'd rather have a kitten. I'm not familiar with sugar gliders, but I'm trying to learn 
Petry walks funny. My cousin told me it was normal, but whn I started reading about "heavy legs," and thinking about what she fed him, I was concerned. She fed him Total cereal and "rinsed off" canned fruit tinytail. I have been feeding him small animal seed (millet and sunflower, corn kernels and alfalfa pellets) with fresh apples, bananas and pecans. I have also given him some cottage cheese (he goes APE over cottage cheese!)
He kind of walks on his wrists and can't get traction on ANYTHING, except my fingers and very nubbly cloth. He wobbles and acts like he can't stand up straight and can't reach a water dish 3 inches from the cage floor (modified 'keet cage.) I know that he is a tree-dwelling animal so this behavior baffles me.
I don't want to pay a vet to look at a normal, healthy animal, so does anybody know how they are supposed to move?
Any advice is greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Sarah
| Posted by: | KarenE, KarenElfrank@aol.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 8:33 PM, 27 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 152.163.195.189 |
Well, Sarah, I can DEFINITELY tell you that your glider should be seen by a knowledgeable vet at once. The way he is walking is absolutely NOT NORMAL for a glider.
His diet also needs to be corrected, but first and most importantly HE NEEDS TO BE SEEN BY A VET AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
| Posted by: | Barb | | Subject: | none | | When: | 11:01 PM, 27 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 63.180.48.1 |
The diet you're feeding your glider is totally wrong. He is not getting adequate nutrition. Please invest in Caroline MacPherson's book SUGAR GLIDERS, publisher Barrons. You should get your glider to a vet right away; he's severely ma;nourished. Do NOT give him canned fruit: Get and use FRESH (or frozen with no additives) only; your glider needs protein - mealworms, crickets, boiled egg or microwaved chicken or turkey--no skin, fat or seasonings; for calcium yogurt or yogurt drops (they love it) and RepCal. Get the glider some of this tonight and get him to the vet tomorrow.
| Posted by: | Barb | | Subject: | for Sarah S | | When: | 11:04 PM, 27 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 63.180.48.1 |
I meant the last message posted for you. Sorry I didn't say so.
| Posted by: | Mary/Beck, intr01dc@frank.mtsu.edu | | Subject: | none | | When: | 4:22 PM, 28 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 12.77.80.245 |
Both of the gliders in this post need to see a vet...they both sounds liek they may be developing HLP..which is a very bad thing.
Linda: How old is she and what diet was she on before you got her?
| Posted by: | Linda | | Subject: | Mary/Beck | | When: | 8:33 AM, 29 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 152.163.207.54 |
Hi,
She is anywhere from 6-8 wks oop, I dont know really. I just found out the place I got her from is a bad. She hasnt eaten but a few bites since sunday and the soonest vet appt. I could get is this Sat. It took me a long time to find a vet that would even look at her. She was eating supreme blend, marmoset can diet, monkey biscuts, eggs, chicken, fresh fruit and veggies. I now heard from Bourbon that she is too young to eating that so I put her on BML and she WONT touch it. But I did get her to eat a peice of apple last night in her pouch. Im very worried about her but not much I can do till saturday...Then I pray to have a decent vet!
Please post any suggestions for my baby girl.
| Posted by: | Robin, 4dbirdie@bellsouth.net | | Subject: | none | | When: | 8:37 AM, 29 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 208.61.135.104 |
Will she even lick the BML from your finger?
| Posted by: | Linda | | Subject: | Robin | | When: | 9:17 AM, 29 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 152.163.207.76 |
No she wont.
| Posted by: | Mary/Beck, intr01dc@frank.mtsu.edu | | Subject: | none | | When: | 10:21 AM, 29 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 12.77.121.58 |
Have you found anything that she really likes? I think you said she likes grapes...have you tried cutting a grape in hald and putting a little leadbeaters on that? She needs to eat soemthing..the leadbeaters is best for her...butshe has to eat something. Does your ;leadbeaters have apple juice in it? If she is 6 weeks old she might drink some watered down leadbeaters from a baby bottle.
| Posted by: | Linda | | Subject: | Mary/Beck | | When: | 10:39 AM, 29 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 152.163.207.66 |
She loved grapes but hasnt eaten any in days. But last night she ate a small bit of apple. Yes, the BML has apple juice in it. Bourbon told me to put it in cause shes to young. Also leave out the shell and the wheat germ. What kinda bottle would I use?
| Posted by: | Mary/Beck, intr01dc@frank.mtsu.edu | | Subject: | none | | When: | 8:41 PM, 29 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 12.77.82.199 |
You can feed her with a baby bottle...or at some petstoresthe sell small animal emergency bottles and syringes...you can even try an eye dropper. At this point I would be deseperate to get anything in her that i could. Did you contact the breeder and tell them she isn't eating? Maybe they can help you out with how they got her to eat before.
| Posted by: | Judie, RichJHausmann@cs.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 10:31 PM, 29 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 152.163.204.204 |
Have you tried giving her some of the canned marmoset feed that she was eating? Also since she will nibble on a monkey biscuit you can soak it in some grape juice as you said she does like grapes. Dilute the grape juice with 50% water or else she may get diarreha.
You can always take her to an emergancy clinic. Another idea is call the vet at home. Look in the phone book for his name and home number is usually above the clinic number.
| Posted by: | Sheila, kwillson@aol.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 10:49 PM, 29 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 65.3.3.164 |
Ok. It sounds like only Linda's glider is getting a calcium supplement through the Leadbetters and Sarah's is not. You absolutely have to have one. There is no way around it with gliders. I only cost $6 and is well worth the investment. It will spare you vet cost and possibly death. A glider that young should not be walking on its wrist. Go to my site <a href=http://www.toandfrogliders.com/FileHierarchy/InfoPouch/InfoPouch.htm>http://www.toandfrogliders.com/FileHierarchy/InfoPouch/InfoPouch.htm</a> and look up both First Time Mom's and Rejected Joeys. There are parts in there about supplemental feedings and how to do it.
| Posted by: | Rachel2, SugarGMommy@aol.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 10:56 PM, 29 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 64.12.102.178 |
It really isn't a good idea to call a vet at his home without him actually giving you the number. This is considered rude. The vet may just tell you to call in the morning and make an appointment anyway, he can't give you a miracle over the phone. I know people don't look up there personal Dr.'s home numbers, many are unlisted, and this is the reason that many Dr. have caller ID's and will not answer their phone if they don't recognize the number. I know this as I work for a vet and my mom who is a nurse is friends with several doctors.
Both of these gliders need to make appointments with a knowledgeable vet. The first glider in this post has been waiting too long to see a vet. We can't give you a miracle. You need to take your gliders to a vet now.
| Posted by: | Sarah S., scarlette@zoomtown.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 10:31 PM, 01 Dec 2000 | | IP: | 216.196.169.93 |
I just wanted to let you guys know that I immediately went to the market and bought the ingredients for leadbeaters, and my little guy loves it. I also took him to the vet (exotic specialty vets are 'spensive!) and he was treated for a little sinus infection and diagnosed with formative limb deformity. basically he was malnourished while he was growing and will never walk right, but the doc says that he can regain *strength* and adapt to his poor bone structure. Thanks for your help.
Sarah S.
| Posted by: | none, HiPhOpChIcKa1048 | | Subject: | ???????????? | | When: | 7:52 PM, 04 Dec 2000 | | IP: | 205.188.198.184 |
Linda,
E-mail me and tell me if shes ok.
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