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Posted by: Twees, tstielow@yahoo.com
Subject: Bonding with older gliders
When: 5:33 PM, 27 Nov 2000
IP: 169.207.42.37
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I have two gliders that I got from people that didn't want them anymore. One is a 2year old male and the other is a 4year old female. Previous owner used them for breeding and never handled either. They are both quite mean and sassy! I had the male neutered because I don't want to breed them. Any tips or suggestions on bonding with older gliders. I also have two other gliders that are sweet as can be, but they were both handled by previous owners. They are in a seperate cage too. Also wondering if it would be a bad idea to put them all together. I have read that they live in groups in the wild, but I am afraid the the mean male might beat up the other male. Any insight into this would be appreciated as well.

Thanks



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Posted by: Barb
Subject: none
When: 10:53 PM, 27 Nov 2000
IP: 63.180.48.1

I would not put them all together. I believe it'd be far wiser to keep them separately. Not all sugar gliders will bond. There are those at this site who will disagree with me, BUT I have purchased young gliders that had not been handled. Even though I handled them for several hours/day for a minimum of 3 months, they never bonded. It has been my experience that because of individual differences, you cannot expect every glider to bond. All of my joeys have readily bonded - usually within a day with a new owner; but they are handled daily from the very first day OOP. Regarding bonding, I raised one joey who was not very friendly; he wasn't even fond of me BUT he dearly LOVED the gal who bought him. He went right to her and bonded immediately. You will always find individual differences....You could try taking the "new" older gliders with you everyday in a pouch so they'll get used to your scent. Always offer them treats while they are in the pouch with you. Good luck, and let us know what happenss.




Posted by: Rocki'sMom, babygirl@ccp.com
Subject: none
When: 11:18 PM, 27 Nov 2000
IP: 216.60.86.122

I am one of those who disagrees....I beleive all gliders can and will bond if given enough time, patience and love. 3 months is not a very long time to work with a glider that has not been handled. Some can take 3 days, some 3 weeks, some 3 months or some may even need 3 years, but with consistancey even the nastiest of gliders can bond....I have seen it......Hopefully Bourbon will post to you about this, I met her glider...Buddy who was what she called a "Pitbull Biter" and even I was able to handle him and he seemed very happy to be with her. So just be consistant.



Posted by: Twees, tstielow@yahoo.com
Subject: none
When: 7:58 AM, 28 Nov 2000
IP: 169.207.42.147

Thanks for your input. I will definately stick with it. I should probably buy stock in bandaids! Any recommendation on where to get bonding pouches. I would prefer one that zips or buttons close. Thanx again.



Posted by: AKs, kackie@bellsouth.net
Subject: bonding pouches
When: 3:39 PM, 28 Nov 2000
IP: 209.214.112.147

they say that you shouldn't get one that you can close because it may tear it up in the process oof trying to make an escape so just wear it at your house.anyway here's a site, www.betsycc.com.



Posted by: Mary/Beck, intr01dc@frank.mtsu.edu
Subject: none
When: 3:48 PM, 28 Nov 2000
IP: 12.77.80.245

Gliders do live in small colonies in the wild...however the live in a large area that has several acres..not in a cage or even a room together. If they encounter gliders that are not from their group they will generally kill them or chase them away. In your case if one of the gliders decides to chase away another one they ahve no way of escapping. You may be able to put them all together but its not likely.

All gliders will bond...not all gliders will bond in 3 months...or even in a year...but they will bond. Many people have said that it took them over a year to bond with their glider, but it still happened. Cynthia had a wild caught glider that had obviously never been ahndled because it was wild caught..and it was deffinitly not a baby when she got it...it took her two years to bond..but it did happen. I have yet to meet a person that really tried for a long period of time and didn't eventually bond with the glider. It may take a lot of time and patience for this to happen..but it can happen.