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Posted by: RockisMom, babygirl@ccp.com
Subject: Glider went Vicious
When: 12:50 AM, 20 Jan 2001
IP: 216.60.86.111
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I had a very tame glider, female that I took everywhere with me. We even went to school to my daughters classroom and to some church youth group things and she was wonderful. Loved all the attention and was the sweetest thing, never crabbed or bit, then one day, she was with me at the bank, she and her twins who went everywhere with us as well, and she was sitting on my hand, one of her babies walked up and climbed onto her back and she kept trying to kinds of shew her away, then all of the sudden she grabbed my thumb and clamped down. I literally had to pry her lil mouth off of me. I put her in her pouch all the while she continued to bite me. I brought her home and put her in her cage and left her alone for the rest of the evening, when I went to feed them, she attacked me again. For the next couple of days, we were very careful to feed while she was still sleeping so we could give her some time. After about 3 or 4 days, she came up to the door and took a treat from me, then ran up my arm to my shoulder, so I thought all was well....then, she ran around and up the back of my head and started biting my head. That was a couple of months ago. Right after, I took her to the vet and had her examined, but she had nothing wrong with her. She still tries to bite me any chance she gets......HELP....what can I do to get her to chill.....I tried starting all over with Bourbons bonding and trust building steps, but nothing seems to be working. Now, if I offer her a treat, she will bypass the treat and sink her teeth into whoever is offering......ANY SUGGESTIONS?????? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Carolyn wink



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Posted by: RockisMom, babygirl@ccp.com
Subject: help
When: 8:33 AM, 20 Jan 2001
IP: 216.60.86.108

Just wanted to bring this back to the top, I need help, if anyone has any suggestions.



Posted by: Jasmine, Spookie_Girl@yahoo.com
Subject: ...
When: 12:54 PM, 20 Jan 2001
IP: 165.247.117.181

Have you changed anything about yourself (especially a scent)? Do you use a new shampoo, deoderant, perfume or soap?

It's possible that she's reacting to an unfamiliar smell... I knew a woman who owned a flying squirrel that loved her and her husband but suddenly turned on her daughter. It turned out that the daughter was using a different soap than she used to and the squirrel freaked out from the smell. When the daughter changed soaps, the squirrel stopped its attacks.

Another option wear an old tee-shirt for a day and rip it up and use it for bedding. She will be forced to be reaccustomed to your scent. It's a very common taming practice that's used to mellow out snakes (another animal that relies heavily on its sense of smell).

It also sounds like she might have developed a protectiveness over the babies. Is this her first litter? I've heard that sometimes an animal's nature can change after it bears young. If you haven't done so already, you may want to separate the twins (keep them in a cage in another room) as soon as they are weaned.

If you still have problems in a month, you may want to talk to your vet again. It's really unusual for an adult animal to change its behavior for no reason. She could be in some sort of pain or have something that's going wrong with her brain. If your vet can't explore such possibilities, it wouldn't hut to get a second opinion.




Posted by: RockisMom, babygirl@ccp.com
Subject: thanks
When: 11:27 AM, 20 Jan 2001
IP: 216.60.86.109

Jasmine, thanks for your input. I haven't changed anything scent wise. As for her babies, when this happened the babies were about7 weeks, so they have since been placed in a seperate cage, for quite some time now and she still hasn't changed. You may have something with the brain thing.....she doesn't act strange other than the attacking. Thanks for your help.



Posted by: Judie, RichJHausmann@cs.com
Subject: Aggressive Behavior in female
When: 1:29 AM, 21 Jan 2001
IP: 205.188.199.37

Carolyn, Sometimes females can become agressive. One little female out in my glider room did the very same thing. But it was only with her first set of babies. I moved her into a larger cage area, put the cage in a different location in the glider room, about a month after her babies left. Now with a new set of babies that are about five weeks oop. Jellybean is still very mellow. One of the the things I did was get rid of the nestbox. Try changing a few things around where you keep your gliders. Also, do not have the scent of another glider on you when you handle her. Do her first. If another glider touches you first it is best then to go wash, change clothes if one has been on your clothing. Keep working with her. She will come around.



Posted by: Judie, RichJHausmann@cs.com
Subject: Displaced Anger
When: 2:03 AM, 21 Jan 2001
IP: 152.163.204.201

I also forgot to mention displaced anger and with what you wrote, and after I reread you post, is probably what has happened. When mothers try to get their babies off, Babies will often bite to hang on that much more. Mom got bit, You get the bite. So, I feel it is a trust issue that needs to be dealt with now. Everything that has been posted here in the above posts should help her get back on track with you. Treat her like she is a new glider and go slow. She will come around again. And with future babies, just take mom or the babies and not all on future outings.



Posted by: RockisMom, babygirl@ccp.com
Subject: Thanks
When: 8:39 AM, 21 Jan 2001
IP: 216.60.86.106

Judie,

Thanks for the advice, I will start all over with her. I hope it works, it is Taima and she was so wonderful....I want my old Taima back.... I will try all the suggestions and keep you posted. Also, Judie...I emailed you, did you recieve it?

Thanks,
Carolyn



Posted by: Wardy, wardy@neosoft.com
Subject: Been there.....
When: 1:11 PM, 21 Jan 2001
IP: 209.196.110.140

It was a number of months back when the same sort of thing happened to me - my male, who was the sweetheart of the two, just went nasty and put a bite in my face that took two stiches to close. Vet found nothing wrong, nothing changed in the house or routine. It was months before we got back to trusting each other - with a LOT of nervousness in between but we did get back to normal. I have to think that by starting over with the bonding and giving it time most of all you guys will be okay too. I didn't push him, just let him know I was around and moved very slowly back through trust building. It's tough, I know, to keep sticking your hand in there, but it was worth it. Good luck with her, she'll apologize eventually.

N.
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