 | Posted by: | jerm | | Subject: | r sugar gliders evil | | When: | 6:33 PM, 17 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 152.163.201.201 |
i heard sugar gliders jump on your face 
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| Posted by: | Mary, intr01dc@frank.mtsu.edu | | Subject: | True | | When: | 7:04 PM, 17 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 12.77.121.122 |
Yes there are a lot of gliders that like to jump or glide to your face. How does that make them evil?
| Posted by: | Bourbon | | Subject: | none | | When: | 7:37 PM, 17 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 216.248.35.210 |
all that is is the ULTIMATE face HUG ;)
| Posted by: | KarenE, KarenElfrank@aol.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 9:59 PM, 17 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 152.163.201.72 |
Just keep your face out of the "glide path" ;)
| Posted by: | Eva And Stefan, glider_house@hotmail.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 12:18 AM, 18 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 64.250.8.152 |
my face has been jumped on. I thought it was funny  but i left the situation with minnor scratches. (which i can only blame on myself for not clippen the nails promptly!)
| Posted by: | Jill, skibuny1@aol.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 8:59 AM, 18 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 209.218.161.65 |
One of my gliders jumped on my face once trying to get to the bowl of mealworms that I was digging thru to feed them. After I jumped and said a few choice words because it scared me I thought it was hilarious! After he landed on my face he jumped to my shoulder and sat there patiently waiting for a mealworm! I think he knew he scared me and thought he would be funny and do it.
| Posted by: | Maria, dmeexotics@aol.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 11:50 PM, 18 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 152.163.204.29 |
I'm short so my gliders go for the top of my head, not my face
| Posted by: | unlovedmommy, spoiledspike@hotmail.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 12:15 AM, 20 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 12.75.41.58 |
My male seems to be intentionally evil.
| Posted by: | Kitara, fuzzybabies@juno.com | | Subject: | not a chance | | When: | 12:34 AM, 20 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 63.25.129.218 |
Evil and sugar glider are words that dont belong in the same sentance!!!!! Your glider is most likely scared and does not know how to behave. What exactly is he doing and what are you doing before and after he does it?
Kitara
| Posted by: | unlovedmommy, spoiledspike@hotmail.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 1:59 AM, 20 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 12.75.41.50 |
I have been giving him licky foods but he still bites to kill! I've had him for three months and I'm sure there isn't a nice bone in his body. I've been patient but I'm getting to the point where I can't decide if I want to keep him, I love him to death but he's so mean to me I don't think he will ever somewhat like me, or give him to someone who has alot of glider experience, I don't want to abandon him but I don't think he will ever come around. And his girlfriend has her evil spells too. i don't know wether to keep him separate and leave him on his merry way and get another male for my female or just wait forever til hes bonded to me and i can put him in the same cage as her.
| Posted by: | Kitara, fuzzybabies@juno.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 2:44 AM, 20 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 63.31.46.100 |
I am going to try very hard not to be to rude here but you have most definitly struck a nerve! Sugar gliders are NOT a disposable animal! Just because he does not act the way you want him to does not mean you should replace him. Do you know what kind of trauma that will put on him? Spend some time watching him and trying to understand how he feels! Look at his face, look at his eyes, what does he need from you to feel safe? He is acting that way for a reason. What are you doing to bond with him? The bonding process is not easy and will take a lot of patients but can be done. Please dont throw him out he does not deserve that, love him and let him get to know your love for him!! We can help you if you have problems but we need to know exactly what is happening.
Kitara
| Posted by: | unlovedmommy, spoiledspike@hotmail.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 9:28 AM, 20 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 12.75.45.50 |
Let me say this, i am not trying to "dispose" of him, i love him very much, i just think he might be happier with someone else who knows what they're doing. I understand that giving him away would put alot of trauma on him, but i think that he has had some much trauma in his life he will never trust me. I got him from a petstore when he was about 6 months and ofcourse they didn't handle him so I'm sure humans have a big nasty impression to him. Once he would be doing great with the licky treats but when i would feed him he would act interested and try to bite my hand. And now he still bites, but yet crawls on me in a secluded room.
| Posted by: | Wardy, wardy@neosoft.com | | Subject: | Hey-Hey - BEEN THERE!! | | When: | 10:44 AM, 20 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 129.7.27.22 |
Unloved-One,
Recently having gone through a period of "tough love" myself, I feel I can post with wisdom! When everything went to heck-in-a-handbasket with my male I almost gave up out of fear. But the folks here encouraged me to start all over from the beginning with the whole bonding process - and it worked! Your guy is scared stiff and he won't unstiffen until he trusts you and you trust him. Start over or give up - the only two options you have. One would hope you have the patience to start from the beginning and give him another chance, but if you can't, I personally think that leaving him alone and unhandled would be far more traumatic than finding him a new person to own. Don't feel guilty - guilt stinks! Just give it the best effort you can and make the best decision you can - for him as well as yourself.
| Posted by: | Treva, treva_dng@hotmail.com | | Subject: | Words of Wisdom | | When: | 4:16 PM, 20 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 208.194.210.94 |
Hi my female was the same way when i first got her.. she was in a pet store but only for a couple of days "thank god"... and the woman that had her before didn't have her very long... mabye 2 weeks.... so she was a little bit upset with everyone.. and i didn't know a thing about gliders when i got her... but because of the boards and doing what they said Aussie finally came around.... she would bite claw and crab when i came near her... now she just looks up at me and says okay mommy get me...lol just hang in there.... keep your playtime in a seculded small room.... and just let him make the moves.... just sit and watch him and let him play.. good luck and keep us posted..
| Posted by: | Mary/Beck, intr01dc@frank.mtsu.edu | | Subject: | evil and scared is not the sam | | When: | 9:02 PM, 20 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 12.77.81.121 |
This poor glider obviously is very scarred. He does want to love.All gliders have a desire to love and be loved..but you have to earn their trust. Try to think of his feelings and what he ahs been through. You may be moving too fast for him..trust can take years.
What do you do when he bites?
That makes a big difference.
You may have to start all over from the beggining here. This will take a lot of patience, love, and time...but he deserves that.
| Posted by: | unlovedmommy, wretchedscabbedwings@hotmail.c | | Subject: | none | | When: | 12:11 AM, 21 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 12.75.42.188 |
Are there any glider taming classes????lol..when he bites i tell him no and he listens and stops then goes for the blood again. i understand that i am a big hairy scary monster to him, and thanks for your success stories but that doesn't help me, infact it makes me cry. Ask my bf who has to deal with "im the worst glider mom in the world" conversations at 3 am in the morning. it's great that you guys have ones that love you, and i am happy for you. does spoiling him help???? ive done so much of that. my male will never do this
| Posted by: | Mary/Beck, intr01dc@frank.mtsu.edu | | Subject: | Bourbon | | When: | 9:55 PM, 21 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 12.77.81.67 |
Bourbon actually does work one on one with people to help in taming their glider. I have never heard of a glider that she didn't help. She works miracles.
Think about when he bites you. We need to figure out why he is biting you. Do you wash your hands really good with warm water before you play with him? He may asscoiate your smell with soemthing bad. Try to think of what happens right ebfore he bites you...you may be doing something that he really doesn't like. People are deffinitly willing to help you here. it can be hard work..but it can happen.
| Posted by: | Kim-/B2, Gliderlove@aol.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 11:13 PM, 21 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 24.164.5.93 |
Keep in mind its only been 3 months, that isnt very long when it comes to gliders and bonding. Especially the pet store gliders. My Cher(and Jerry too) was a pet store glider. 2 mos OOP- she was fat and NASTY!! It was between 4-5 months that she bonded to me and now, after almost 3 years, she's the sweetest, most loving, trusting, forgiving glider Ive ever seen aside from Baybe and Dytee. I cant believe shes the same glider that back then would've killed me in my sleep if she was able to.
| Posted by: | Mary/Beck, intr01dc@frank.mtsu.edu | | Subject: | three months!! | | When: | 12:28 PM, 22 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 12.77.81.196 |
Thanks Kim..I had forgotten. I went back and read the posts again, Three months is no where near enough time for a glider to trust and bond if they have had a bad past(especially a petstore glider). Patience is the key...keep trying and never give ip. Iy just takes time for trust to build.
| Posted by: | Leslie, madeaveda@yahoo.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 3:43 PM, 22 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 216.126.189.138 |
we just got a female glider from a veterinarian's office. Somebody had given her up. Is it best to get another glider? Are they more friendly when there is just one? We want to do what is best for her. Thanks
| Posted by: | dagny | | Subject: | none | | When: | 4:19 PM, 22 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 24.18.196.238 |
from what I have read it is WAY better to have two...in the wild, gliders are very social animals and can get very lonely if kept by themselves.
| Posted by: | Kim-/B2, Gliderlove@aol.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 4:44 PM, 22 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 24.164.5.93 |
<a href=http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/glidingpossums/MyIssues.html#1>http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/glidingpossums/MyIssues.html#1</a>
Those are my thoughts on 1 vs 2.
| Posted by: | unlovedmommy, wretchedscabbedwings@hotmail.c | | Subject: | none | | When: | 7:25 PM, 22 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 12.75.41.50 |
Would Bourban be willing to work one on one with me?
| Posted by: | CindyNzia, preddyfairy@aol.com | | Subject: | taming | | When: | 11:01 PM, 22 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 64.12.104.22 |
I have a male who is much like yours. I have had him for the same amount of time as you had yours and at one time I did conemplate getting another male for my female, but you know what.. I honestly think If i gave him up, he would die. He has 2 children now and he doesnt bite as much as he use to but he does bite, and he bites hard. He draws blood and sometimes he lunges at me as if to attack. Luckily i have avoided those lunges by moving out of the way when he does this... but I think in time, they will learn and get use to things. THey will trust you little by little, and you may not even be able to tell at first.. just give it a few months then look back and you will see changes, even if they are tiny. Good Luck 
I also think Bourbon will work with you. She also has a website with bonding tips and such if you have not seen it yet the web address is below.
| Posted by: | CindyNzia, preddyfairy@aol.com | | Subject: | errrrrrrrrrr | | When: | 11:04 PM, 22 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 64.12.104.22 |
<a href=http://www.angelfire.com/nb/sugarglider/bonding.html>http://www.angelfire.com/nb/sugarglider/bonding.html</a>
| Posted by: | unlovedmommy, wretchedscabbedwings@hotmail.c | | Subject: | none | | When: | 11:32 PM, 22 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 12.75.42.163 |
I have already gone to that page and tried them but he is still mean.
| Posted by: | Mary/Beck, intr01dc@frank.mtsu.edu | | Subject: | Bourbon | | When: | 5:52 PM, 23 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 12.77.80.244 |
Bourbon will help you...try emailing her.
Bourbon@iname.com
| Posted by: | Bourbon | | Subject: | none | | When: | 7:53 PM, 23 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 216.248.35.176 |
I just emailed her....
| Posted by: | gina | | Subject: | none | | When: | 4:37 AM, 24 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 63.27.55.193 |
i find that they bond really if they can run free in a room. just be sure to "gliderproof" the room,and don't try to handle them too much, let them handle you.
| Posted by: | Kimi, norby@greenepa.net | | Subject: | none | | When: | 1:12 PM, 25 Oct 2000 | | IP: | 209.117.80.98 |
I agree. Lilbit got over a lot of her fears and hang-ups, after I set her up in her own room, complete with apple and pear tree branches, some hanging rope here and there and assorted toys. Tis a pain to keep clean tho...
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