 | Posted by: | Kyla, qtpie@canada.com | | Subject: | depressed male | | When: | 1:29 AM, 27 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 216.66.144.1 |
When I moved to another Province I found a great deal of difficulty selling my joeys. So I kept my last two (a male and female) and put the mother and daughter in one cage father and son in the other. My adult male (the father) Seems very depressed though. He just sits in his cage and barks constantly. I'm very worried that this will affect his health. He was with "his female" for 4 years. I placed the cages next to one another so they can see each other but it doesn't seem to help. I'm planning on nuetering them next year but I can't at the moment because it costs almost $90.00 each! Is there anything I can do to cheer him up. He has always been aggresve towards me where as my female has bonded quite well. He has actually made an inch long gash in my index finger so I don't think I can handle him often. I bonded with them in the exact same manner. My younger male has just begun to reach adolesense. Will he and his father fight? Thatnk-you for your help.
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| Posted by: | Barb | | Subject: | none | | When: | 1:51 AM, 27 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 63.180.48.29 |
The father and should not fight. My JJ and Joey still have Little Joe (nearly a year old) with them. Josie Joy and Jennifer Joy, his recently weaned twin sisters are also in the cage. Little Joe (who's really not little anymore) is extremely protective of his little sisters and he has never fought with Papa Joe. However, I have found that once babies of any (weaned) age have been removed for more than a couple of days, they parents (either mom or dad) will no longer recognize them as their joeys; they will fight them off.....So if you take the son out of the cage for any significant amount of time, I'd be very careful about putting him back in with dad.
| Posted by: | Kyla, qtpie@canada.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 11:49 PM, 27 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 216.66.144.122 |
I removed the joeys from the cage for about 3 weeks when I was trying to sell them and took them back to my origonal province. It took me a week to reintroduce them back but it worked so I don't think that will be a problem.
| Posted by: | Judie, RichJHausmann@cs.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 1:29 AM, 28 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 205.188.192.54 |
It is not wise to keep the young male with his father. He will start adolencence soon and you may have a problem with the mature glider. He may be injured or killed my his father as the mature glider will more than likely see him as a threat.
I find it very sad that mature paired gliders had to be seperated from each other. Sugar Gliders form lasting relationships with each other and this must be difficult for them to be seperated by being in different cages even if they are close to one another.
As for neutering the males there is a tie off method than can be done for about $30 to $40 each.
After the inital tie which is very quick the glider will experience no more pain. The sack will fall off in ten days. There have been no recorded problems and I know of a breeder who has a vet doing it for several years now. I also am using the procedure for my little male babies.
With this neutering done you would be able to put all of your gliders back together within three weeks or so after the procedure. Then all will be happy again.
| Posted by: | Judie, RichJHausmann@cs.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 3:31 AM, 28 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 205.188.199.54 |
The tie off method for neutering is to be done only by a licensed vet. This is done in a sterile room to prevent infection so it is not a home procedure.
| Posted by: | Twees, tstielow@yahoo.com | | Subject: | none | | When: | 8:02 AM, 28 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 169.207.42.147 |
I would just get him Neutered asap. I had mine done and while it did cost $85 it was worth their happiness. I was able to put them back together right away. You have to closely supervise to make sure that neither of them mess with the stitches. I was lucky and neither of my males or females did. Good luck!
| Posted by: | Mary/Beck, intr01dc@frank.mtsu.edu | | Subject: | none | | When: | 4:00 PM, 28 Nov 2000 | | IP: | 12.77.80.245 |
This is a very bad situation. Adilt mated pairs should not be seperated like this...he could go into a major depression. If both the males are syill intact and they are both at sexual maturity then there is a very good chance they will fight.....the chance would eb slimer if they ahvd never been seperated, but since they were seperated for 3 weeks there is a good chance of fighting. Try calling around and seeing if you can find a cheaper vet...or ask your vet for some tupe of payment plan. At the very least get the dad neutered and put him back with him mate. It is very crule to seperate mated adult pairs this way.
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