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Subject: Diana, let me add..
Posted by Bourbon on September 05, 1998 at 08:15:07:

In Reply to: Re: MY GOD! (She's never done this before!) posted by Diana on September 05, 1998 at 02:17:44:

I myself can't imagine why some people would rather scare their glider to death, rather than give IT time to trust. The running diareaha is probably because it was super scared and really stressed. Mine did that once when we had a lot of people in the house she didn't know. That was the last time I did that to her. Time is of the utmost importance here with this glider, the more she forces the issue without giving it time to trust, the more defensive the glider is going to react. This glider isn't a playtoy that you can take right out of the box and play with. It needs time to adjust and learn to trust, not given that time she will have a very mean, untrusting glider on her hands. She may not be able to anything with it after a while longer, after 3 weeks of this glider feeling unsafe and insecure, it may get worse just so it will be left alone, only to the demise of the the glider later. This is one reason I have slowed down my postings. I get real tired of telling the same people the same thing time after time..This is the third time, it is the same answer to the same problem.. TRUST.. It is scared to death. SHE NEEDS TIME..

my first post to this problem::

You just got Kit on the 22nd.. so it is still very early yet in the bonding stage.. some questions.. how long have you had the t shirt in the cage? what about the booty sock? Since you have gotten her have you given her time to get herself adjusted the the new enviroment.? Has others been messing with her (playing, checking her out)Do you spend any day time hours with her? when are you trying to put her in your pocket?she feels safe in the booty sock .. is it darker? is she less bothered in it? Don't try to do a fast bond with her let her call the shots for a little bit. she needs to feel safe and secure..she must always associate good things with the pocket or pouch.. if she prefers the booty sock.. pin it to the inside of a button down shirt.. but don't pin it closed..Don't take her out side till she sleeps most of the time..when that happens you know she feels safe in the pocket or pouch..She crabs because it is the only defense she has..Again she don't feel safe yet.. she needs time alone for a little bit . if she WANTS out okay but don't try to hold her let her hold you..

my second post to this problem::

Julie Don't get me wrong here, cause I may sound a little harsh, so I am letting you know now that is not my intentions. Okay lets start with what you are saying.. am I to assume you had both the tee and the booty sock in there? after all we are only talking a week here. Go back and print out the post I made on the t shirt thing.. You must have more than 1 pocket tee and it must be changed EVERY day..Now as far as why she crabs..well as I said before she doesn't feel safe yet. she must really feel safe with you.. I may sound a little possessive her but you are working with a tiny little baby in a very strange enviroment (not to you, but to Kit) You are a giant to her. Look at the size difference..You must make her feel safe and secure, and at this time she doesn't feel that way with you.. here you said.."whenever I take her out she is always in her booty sock and she starts crabbing at me..","She does this EVERY time I take her out ", "Then every time I move she crabs.", "Also at night when she wakes up I approach the cage and she runs in her booty sock ", "she runs around my room totally ignoring me. " these are your words, when you look at them now, you can see that she feels safe in her booty sock, but, not with you just yet.. Leave her in the cage for a few days.. let her feel safe, talk to her often softly, look in on her, let her see you and hear you. Give her treats everytime you walk near her cage. Open the door to do it. If she crabs let her, she ain't hurting nuttin.. all she is saying is that she is scared.. when you said." then I pet her and talk to her in a soft voice and she stops crabbing... looks at me for a second and then slowly closes her eyes while looking at me." That should tell you that she is starting to trust you but she is still insecure. SHE needs to build a trust FOR you.. You have to wait for that to happen on her time at her pace. It is easy for a human to learn to trust at such a young age, but animals are different, you have to let her build it, she should learn but if you rush it you will be doing more harm than good. If you try to force her to trust you, she may end up resenting the time out. Give her a few days in the cage, spend as much time with her in her space as SHE needs..Love her and wait for her, she will love you yet.. but remeber that she has to learn to trust you, don't blow that trust. Make her feel as safe and as secure as she needs to feel.. Protect her from strange scents, faces, and noises. protect her from anything that may scare her,.always speak to her and let her know she is worth the wait..

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