I want to upgrade my sugar gliders' cages, (in a few months when I will be able to do so)and I would like to know from the sugar glider community some really great LARGE cages that maybe you all might own or like. My budget will be for a cage under $1000 bucks. I haved looked online, and I've seen a few that I like, but with more input, maybe I can make an even better choice as to which cage to get my gliders.

With a budget of $1000 you can get quite a large enclosure. I think most of us go for what is easy to be able to get in and out of our doorways so they can be taken outside and hosed down every so often....



http://www.thelashop.com/30x18x69-in-cockatiel-parrot-bird-cage-stand-black-vein.html

Free s&h if you purchase 2 or more...."for10" coupon code for additional 10% off. I got 2 for $233.98

If you or anyone is handy with a saw you can make a custom cage from pvc and hardware netting... and zipties... lots and lots of zip ties.... Ask me how I know? Haha jk. You can check my profile if you feel inclined to build something grand. My cage was originally 6' x 4' x 2.5' and is now halved. I spent about 100$.

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<br />With a budget of $1000 you can get quite a large enclosure. I think most of us go for what is easy to be able to get in and out of our doorways so they can be taken outside and hosed down every so often....



http://www.thelashop.com/30x18x69-in-cockatiel-parrot-bird-cage-stand-black-vein.html

Free s&h if you purchase 2 or more...."for10" coupon code for additional 10% off. I got 2 for $233.98
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I LOVE these cages!!! And you can't beat that price! Thanks!

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<br />If you or anyone is handy with a saw you can make a custom cage from pvc and hardware netting... and zipties... lots and lots of zip ties.... Ask me how I know? Haha jk. You can check my profile if you feel inclined to build something grand. My cage was originally 6' x 4' x 2.5' and is now halved. I spent about 100$.
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I saw the cage that you made Althalus! Cool! But unfortunately, I'm not handy with a saw, niether do I know of anyone that is. I'm going to have to buy my new cages fully made already. Thanks for your help though. Maybe someone else who *is* handy will see your jounal pics and get some ideas there. Thanks for everything:)

These cages are really big but are usually too big to get through most doors.

https://www.google.com/search?aq=f&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-
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I bought the large a & e avary from petco.com. It was 330.00

Sweet cages!!! Mine is only 32" x 22" x 35" (says 36" but really not from floor of cage to top of cage). It's the one they came with and I thought it was huge, until I saw what ppl here have. One day, I hope to be out of our small rental and into a little bigger place (hopefully our own home) and will want something like Jazz&Zoeysmom has. We don't have the floor space for one that tall right now.

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This is the avary and my hexagonal

The A&E 40x30 cage is huge and can be found cheaper on Ebay.

40" x 30" x 62" = 74,400 cubic inches which is more than twice the size of the popular Exel Tower style.

I like that one Kazko

Yeah, maybe I want one of those some day when I have more space or better designed space & more money.

I would love that one, and almost got one of similar size, but luckily I measured my door ways 1st.... they're only 29 and a smidge...just enough to keep this beautiful cage from fitting thru!

I was just thinking about cages. I tried working with the Exel guy some time ago to design better cages for our community and we just got nowhere and he stopped communicating with me. It seems that they are no longer selling, so I figure that he died.

The large tower and all of the existing clones are around 30x18x56=<b>30,240</b> cubic inches on an 18" stand. Personally, I think the stand is a waste of space and I'd rather that extra space for my gliders to live in. So if that cage was simply to the floor it would become 30x18x74=<b>39,960</b>.

But yeah, 30" deep is a bit too much for most people. In same, most of the corner, octagonal or round cages are just too big to handle. That 40x30 is a bit large, yes, but it is a good choice if you can manage it.

If you take the Exel dimensions above and add in certain directions, I think some better sized cages for sugar gliders would be:

32x20x74=<b>47,360</b>
36x18x74=<b>47,952</b>
30x24x74=<b>53,280</b>
36x24x74=<b>63,936</b>

and of course the
40x30x62=<b>74,400</b>, but why not make it taller
40x30x74=<b>88,800</b>

One concept I was broaching with Terry was to develop a modular system much like Ferret Nation has done, where you can stack or extend to get to the size that you can use. Another concept is that two cages can be joined, and mor importantly, separated for cleaning. So imagine any of those tower cages above fully connected side to side.

36x18x74 + 36x18x74=<b>95,904</b>

And then I always thought this was a neat cage. I had one but chose to sell it because I just didnt have the room. At 60x30x78, you get <b>140,400</b> cuin of space for your little colony to enjoy.



But you can easily hook two small cages side to side or back to back. That's one good reason to buy the cheaper flimsy budget cages ; buy two!

WOW ! I really love that one

hehe I'm not the only one that ties there doors with fleece! AWESOME!

I love the budget cages zipped tied together

Who's the happy guy standing next to the cage?

WHOA!!!! I'm just now returning to this post again. AWESOME cages! Now I have even *more* choices to choose from Thanks Kazco, and everyone else for all of your input You guys are helping me out sooooooo much

Thanks *Kazko*.

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Just curious, but how are these two cages attached? I know that you talked about using zip ties, but how did you fix it so they were open to each other in the middle?

I love the idea behind this setup because it lets me have the cage size I want on a budget. Thanks!

I thought about doing something similar but back to back, I figured you could just attached the back wall piece to the other cage (x2) then just get some hardware mesh to use as a floor/top. That, however, is way cooler. Now if Kazko would just come back and enlighten us as to how he did that... lol

The biggest problem for me with the really large cages is the difficulty they present for taking them outside for a good hose down.

I LOVE the idea of connecting two cages back to back - this allows you to keep the supports for the cage pan and removable bottom grates - but once connected this would no longer fit through a door way.

Now, what I would really like to see is optional attachments to connect two matching cages tall cages side by side.

This would involve a connector piece that replaces the supports for the cage pan and grate for both cages (replacing the 2 side panels) and a filler piece at the top that would support the top panels of the 2 cages and fill the gap that would occur at the top when the side panel is eliminated. The two cages could be attached using a sturdy latch system (window sash locks would work using two on front and two on the back and perhaps one at the top) Connecting the cages using a latching system would allow it to be taken apart for cleaning - making it manageable to take out side, or even just having a huge open side so you can reach in and scrub down the whole inside of the cage.

Now, someone that wants to build cages can take this and run with it. My only request is that I get a prototype to use.

I like that idea Candy. I use a hand held steam cleaner to clean my cages so I'm not worried about getting them through a doorway. I'm also thinking that depending on how they are connected in the middle you could always cut the zip ties to move them if needed.

Kazko,
Apart from the size of that huge cage you said you had at one time (the 60 3/8x 30 3/8 x 78 /14), were there any draw backs to it? Were the bars placed close enough together? Was it easy to reach the ceiling of the cage? could you fit it through a regular doorway? How much did the cage cost?
I will have the room for it once I move to VA and I am looking for an aviary sized set up for what will be a colony of 6 (three right now). Right now I have a cage that is specifically designed for gliders called the Madagascar Cage and it's good for three, but I want to spoil my suggies with more glide space lol.

I was looking at one of those indoor hybrid bird aviaries that are on the Suncatcher website but they are expensive. I was also looing at the A & E indoor aviaries (the smallest size that has a 1/2 bar spacing) and they seem really doable for where I'll live.

Resa

Candy, that's why I liked the idea of doing it back to back, because to clean you could detach the mesh and temporarily put the back of the cage back to the correct cage.

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I didnt do this, these are just community photos from others. The cages on stands will often have the stand in the way of joining two together. So you just have to get beyond that, do some engineering. The budget cages can simply drop a wall by bending the wires that hold it all together, and then you join two cages. If it were me, I'd try to find some way to hold them together in a temporary fashion. Perhaps bending one side so that it has vertical fingers and the other side has a sliding collar to meet each finger, so you can easily separate them for cleaning.

My biggest cage right now is 30x30 and it is a bit unwieldy. Id rather squish and elongate it to something like 34x26 or around there so that it rolls through doorways easier.

So of course, joining two budget cages is a neat idea. Be sure to do something about the guillotine doors though. A mod would be to connect the doors and make one long one. Just find some mesh and get to work on it. Find a tiny little electric spot welder if you need to join wires.

Thanks Kazko:) That was very enlightening:)

I love the idea of putting the two cages together. They look like you could just cut the zip ties if you want to take it out for a good washing once in a while.