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May 20 2010
06:02:07 PM
So I decided to upgrade to the extra large corner aviary and am about to pull my hair out. It would be nice if detailed instructions were included, and if they mentioned you would either need x amount of floor space or vaulted ceilings to assemble the darn thing.
I'm certain once assembled the suggies will love it, but I've already put the cage portion together wrong and now have to dissassemble it and reassemble it properly.
Fortunately I am not single, or it would never be assembled as you need a holder and a person to fasten while held.
Why didn't I get the tower cages? What was I thinking!!!
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May 20 2010
06:06:33 PM
suggiemom02 Face Hugger GliderMap Visit suggiemom02's Photo Album suggiemom02's Journal KY, USA 906 Posts
You were thinking that you were getting a cage you wanted, your suggies will love, and that you could afford! It's win-win... UNTIL: you get it with no instructions.. Guys are better at this kinda thing i will admit...
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May 20 2010
06:15:22 PM
kazko Little Bunny FooFoo GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit kazko's Photo Album kazko's Journal TX, USA 6747 Posts
So which cage is it exactly? The only corner one I find with sugar glider in the title has a playtop and looks to be 1" bar spacing.

Can you gleam the photo from the ebay page? Maybe I can find an assembly doc for you.
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May 20 2010
08:02:52 PM
dragonracer Glider Visit dragonracer's Photo Album USA 142 Posts
Don't we know your pain! My husband & I ran into the same problem - no instructions and space. We had the space for it, once in the corner. The putting together space - well, lets just say limited. Go to my pictures and you can see the finished product. We put the sides together with the back - laid out. Then proceeded to fold them in to add the front. Still laid down, we put top on, to hold it together. The bottom should fit then. Ours has wheels. Put those on, still laid down - of course. If you have the bottom grate - that can be a pain to fit. Ours has a pull out bottom for easy clean up. IF and a BIG IF, you do have the bottom grate, make sure that there is absolutely no space between it and the lower pan. We had an escape artist that found the space. Fortunatly, she didn't go far and ended in a clean sack beside the cage. We have temporarily fixed that problem with cement pavers. Good luck! Like I mentioned - go to my pictures and you can see our finished product. Oh yea, I forgot the white slats that go on the sides. These too can be a pain to slide in and stay. But, our kids love it! Have any questions, feel free to ask.
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May 21 2010
12:08:29 AM
swithers Face Hugger Visit swithers's Photo Album USA 423 Posts
That cage is realy cool. Where did you order that from dragonracer?
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May 21 2010
07:19:49 PM
DeathToFORLs Joey Visit DeathToFORLs's Photo Album 39 Posts
Thanks all! You guys are awesome. Kazko, it is the 100G-1 but we finally got it together, thanks to everyone for the help!
I have to say, assembly aside, it's pretty awesome. The suggies LOVE it. When I first put them in they looked around with astonished expressions; I wish I had a pic. Will have to upload photos as soon as I'm done decorating. And the bottom grate would definitely be an escape hazard so I ziptied it to the sides.
Next challenge: cleaning it ;-)
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May 21 2010
08:50:19 PM
dragonracer Glider Visit dragonracer's Photo Album USA 142 Posts
swithers - I got mine on sugargliderstore.com. Only go there for the toys and such. Just happened to be on sale and I had an on-line coupon.

DeathToFORLs - Ours were so funny to watch too. After about 10 minutes, one of the little girls decided to check the new house. Then everybody started checking it out. When they found out they had all that room to stretch, it was "on". I too wish I had pictures - they would've been worth a thousand words. Glad it worked out for you. Thanks for the zip tie idea! I'll try that out too. For cleaning? Well, I pretty much have to lay inside it to get the lower area. I also have a extended shower sponge thing, that works fairly well.
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May 21 2010
10:34:41 PM
DeathToFORLs Joey Visit DeathToFORLs's Photo Album 39 Posts
My apologies if I should have started a new thread for this, but I couldn't help myself, I had to share

Some pics of Belle and Sebastian enjoying their new digs:


This cage is ENORMOUS


More mealies please


My decorating skills leave something to be desired, but they don't seem to mind too much. I think it will look much better once the rest of their "gear" is out of the dryer and hung.
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May 21 2010
10:55:01 PM
fadedrainbows Face Hugger GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit fadedrainbows's Photo Album fadedrainbows's Journal USA 819 Posts
Wow! Looks great! How tall is that thing??
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May 21 2010
10:59:59 PM
Rita Glider Sprinkles GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit Rita's Photo Album Rita's Journal MO, USA 12214 Posts
What a great looking cage! I bet your gliders LOVE all that room!

What are the dimensions of the cage? I can see why it was a real puzzle to put it together...
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May 21 2010
11:05:12 PM
swithers Face Hugger Visit swithers's Photo Album USA 423 Posts
Good question fadedrainbows. What are the demensions? I have the 2 cages off ebay for 150. Its big but not attractive. I would love to have a cage in the living room.
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May 21 2010
11:30:24 PM
DaCoSim Super Glider Visit DaCoSim's Photo Album 330 Posts
That looks GREAT!!!!!!
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May 22 2010
12:32:18 AM
DeathToFORLs Joey Visit DeathToFORLs's Photo Album 39 Posts
Thanks y'all. The dimensions are 52"x42"x74". It's seriously a monster!
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May 22 2010
01:16:03 AM
kazko Little Bunny FooFoo GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit kazko's Photo Album kazko's Journal TX, USA 6747 Posts
I like the use of space on this cage. It looks nice. Are the sides actually 42" then? So it would be 42" square? Is the 52" measured as the hypotenuse or where does that come from?

I have the Exel XL cage which is 30X30 and it is huge. I cannot imagine larger. There is no way that 42" is fitting through a door anywhere...

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May 22 2010
01:30:50 AM
kazko Little Bunny FooFoo GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit kazko's Photo Album kazko's Journal TX, USA 6747 Posts
Ebay has listings for this corner aviary in three sizes with free shipping. It looks like a better deal than the web site store. Odds are that they simply drop ship from the same supplier so you just pay more for middle man profit.

100G-1 52" x 42" x 74" $305
100G-2 44" x 35" x 67" $258
100G-3 37" x 30" x 61" $220




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May 22 2010
08:38:00 AM
skeeterabc Joey 49 Posts
wow, this cage is awesome and so sharp looking, i would love to get Aerial a really big cage, but we only have a 900 square foot house. She has a pretty descent size cage, but seeing this, i think i just might get rid of some furniture..lol..
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May 22 2010
12:02:12 PM
DeathToFORLs Joey Visit DeathToFORLs's Photo Album 39 Posts
Kazko, for the most part it's a killer cage. The sides are more like 38 by my measure and the 52 is measuring from the right front corner to the left rear corner. I'm a words person not a math person ( failed geometry 3 times in high school) so hypotenuse is sadly not a familiar term for me. I know, I should really go back to school for math!

There are a few things I would change about the cage:
*heavier gauge bars
*open out doors rather than slide up doors (which can be converted but would be nice if came that way)
*wire bottom grate forming an escape proof seal without the use of zipties
*a wire top directly below the metal top for ease of hanging items (right now I'm covering pine perches in fleece in order to hang things from the top)
*more solid construction and or heavier epoxy coat (all sounds are SUPER loud and echo-y )
*a pull out tray that pulls out from the FRONT of the cage instead of the back so you don't have to move the whole cage out to remove the catch tray
*a different color finish, like black vein or silver vein

All in all I'm quite pleased; the use of space is fantastic, but in a perfect world you'd be able to purchase this in stainless surgical steel with all the above modifications.

I fortunately have an account with A&E so got the cage for cost. I can say with certainty that $305 is incredibly reasonable with minimal markup, and even shipping freight it came in less than a week.

Someday, I'll have my stainless steel walk in aviary, but until I can save for that this will definitely suffice. Since I got my kiddos in January I've spent well over $2500 on supplies, housing, food, etc and though it's been expensive these guys are soooo worth it.

"take check from employer, place directly in sugar gliders paws" lol.

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May 22 2010
12:07:01 PM
DeathToFORLs Joey Visit DeathToFORLs's Photo Album 39 Posts
Oh and yeah, no way is this thing fitting through ANY door unless it's sliding glass or French doors!

Skeeter: this footprint of this cage is pretty decent, you may have to get rid of furniture to put it together, lol, but once assembled takes up relatively little space for its dimensions.

And I will defintely have to try the extended shower sponge for cleaning. Thanks for the tip dragonracer!
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May 22 2010
05:08:47 PM
Mollysmom Goofy Gorillatoes GliderMap Visit Mollysmom's Photo Album MI, USA 2011 Posts
That's a fabulous cage! I had a hex cage once, that went with the three girls I rehomed back in October of last year. I was a monstrosity to clean, though!

I'm toying with the idea of getting another Excel to put together with one of mine that I already have for the six glider colony. I'd have to find a way to attach it side by side, though, because I need to be able to roll it out into the hallway during other colonies' play sessions...what a life! LOL!
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May 22 2010
10:29:31 PM
kazko Little Bunny FooFoo GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit kazko's Photo Album kazko's Journal TX, USA 6747 Posts
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Originally posted by DeathToFORLs

The sides are more like 38 by my measure and the 52 is measuring from the right front corner to the left rear corner.

Strange, as 38 is not one of the numbers above. With 52 being your large number, I am guessing that the two large panels (the back) should each be 42 x 74. Where did you get 38?

What is the width of all five panels on this thing?
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May 22 2010
10:39:10 PM
dragonracer Glider Visit dragonracer's Photo Album USA 142 Posts
After seeing your pictures, DeathToFORLs - that is the same cage as mine. I'm using baby chain rings, to hang across the top of the cage. That way I can hang stuff from there. But, for all the weird stuff (I agree with all that you mentioned) - my kids love it. That's what matters. And no, due to it being a corner cage, it doesn't take up as much room as you'd think! Congrat's again for figuring it out.
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May 23 2010
12:46:41 PM
DeathToFORLs Joey Visit DeathToFORLs's Photo Album 39 Posts
Kazko, I remeasured using a tape measure instead of a fabric tape measure and I'm befuddled because:
"corner" or largest back panels are 34 inches across by 64 in height, with the cage total height on casters at 74 inches. The three front panels each measure 20 inches across by 64 in height.
I may have to call A&E because this just isn't adding up, that or I have a bogus tape measure which is unlikely. I'm a bit upset that what I have isn't what I was promised, but it is big enough. Let me know if you can figure where they're getting these di
ensions because I'm baffled!

Dragonracer, I'll have to implement the ring idea, that's genius!
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May 23 2010
01:16:02 PM
kazko Little Bunny FooFoo GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit kazko's Photo Album kazko's Journal TX, USA 6747 Posts
Sounds to me like you got the G2 but that is absolutely a guess. I would like to know what those measurements are that they advertise. I'm not surprised to see this though. I have the 30x30 cage and it is huge in the room. What you have looks very similar in size relationship except one corner is smashed down/taken away. I wouldnt be surprised to find that the 30x30 has more volume inside than the one you have. But its hard to calculate without actual numbers. But now i have them, so out comes the pencil!

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May 23 2010
01:54:19 PM
kazko Little Bunny FooFoo GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit kazko's Photo Album kazko's Journal TX, USA 6747 Posts
Corner aviary inside squared dimensions: 34 x 34 x 64 = 73984
subtract front corner triangle: (1/2(14x14)) x 64 = 6272
total inside area = 67712 sqin

Exel XL inside dimensions: 30 x 30 x 56 = 50400


You win!


Exel L inside: 30 x 18 x 56 = 30240
Connect two side by side = 60480


It looks like the corner may be a very good way to go. I wish the doors were larger though, and the pans were front accessible.
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May 23 2010
02:07:37 PM
Candy Cuddle Bear Visit Candy's Photo Album FL, USA 8110 Posts
what are the dimensions of the slide up door openings? I see you Wodent wheels but I wonder if the Stealth Wheels would go in through the doors.

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May 23 2010
05:26:16 PM
DeathToFORLs Joey Visit DeathToFORLs's Photo Album 39 Posts
Candy, the wheel on the right side as you're looking at the picture is a stealth. I ordered it when I had my exel tower and couldn't fit it through the door, but there was plenty of room to get it through the door on this cage. I'll measure for you when I'm back home.

Kazko, thanks for the calculations, I'm glad even if it wasn't as advertised that it's still quite roomy! I'm ashamed however at my math skills, lol. And yes, the engineering of the pull out pan is ridiculousy backwards!

Edited by - DeathToFORLs on May 23 2010 05:27:53 PM
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Oct 08 2010
11:52:17 AM
Chippy Starting Member 1 Posts
I realize this is a bit of an old thread, but it is the ONLY one I have found for this exact cage. I was thinking of buying this model but wanted to double check the safety of it. Really wondering about what you guys meant when saying the bottom had problems:
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wire bottom grate forming an escape proof seal without the use of zipties


What's wrong with the bottom that creates escape worries? Where are the zipties/how do you use them to make it escape proof?
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Oct 08 2010
01:48:12 PM
valkyriemome Goofy Gorillatoes Visit valkyriemome's Photo Album USA 3479 Posts
http://www.birdcagesgalore.com/aviary/100G-1.html

I just got this cage for free. <3 Yay!

The bottom grate is supposed to slide forward and out for some reason. It also drops down below the cage itself by about an inch. This creates a space where the gliders can slip out.

It is easily fixed if you zip tie the bottom grate to the cage itself. Then it can't slip forward or drop down.

Edited by - valkyriemome on Oct 08 2010 01:48:37 PM
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Oct 08 2010
04:46:25 PM
1989jeremy Super Glider Visit 1989jeremy's Photo Album 1989jeremy's Journal USA 352 Posts
how did you get it for free val?
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Oct 08 2010
05:01:34 PM
xkwisit Glider USA 63 Posts
What an awesome cage! Now you got me looking & getting in trouble soon by my hubby.... if he only knew what I have invested in my little critters he would have a cow!
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Oct 08 2010
08:56:35 PM
Omis n Kais g-ma Pouch Protector Visit Omis n Kais g-ma's Photo Album TX, USA 7524 Posts
That is one awesome looking cage. I'm jealous.
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